As well they SHOULD be.
Hey folks,
You REALLY can't make this up. But do not be fooled. This is a trick. I love this piece in the Politico - Town halls gone wild
Screaming constituents, protesters dragged out by the cops, congressmen fearful for their safety — welcome to the new town-hall-style meeting, the once-staid forum that is rapidly turning into a house of horrors for members of Congress.
On the eve of the August recess, members are reporting meetings that have gone terribly awry, marked by angry, sign-carrying mobs and disruptive behavior. In at least one case, a congressman has stopped holding town hall events because the situation has spiraled so far out of control.
“I had felt they would be pointless,” Rep. Tim Bishop (D-N.Y.) told POLITICO, referring to his recent decision to temporarily suspend the events in his Long Island district. “There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”
THAT'S NOT IT. They KNOW that they are wrong. They KNOW that they are not listening to you. Look for more of this trend. They will NOT meet with you to hear you protest against Obamacare. Why? Because they do not care what you think. All this is is an attempt to BLAME YOU for them being to much of a coward to meet with you. They know what they are doing is wrong. Even in NY. But they will blame YOU for not meeting WITH you.
In Bishop’s case, his decision came on the heels of a June 22 event he held in Setauket, N.Y., in which protesters dominated the meeting by shouting criticisms at the congressman for his positions on energy policy, health care and the bailout of the auto industry.
Within an hour of the disruption, police were called in to escort the 59-year-old Democrat — who has held more than 100 town hall meetings since he was elected in 2002 — to his car safely.
“I have no problem with someone disagreeing with positions I hold,” Bishop said, noting that, for the time being, he was using other platforms to communicate with his constituents. “But I also believe no one is served if you can’t talk through differences.”
THERE IS ONE DIFFERENCE. YOU are not listening. You and many others seem to have taken the position that WE The People, are here to serve you. WRONG. You are here to serve us, and regardless of what The People say, you and your ilk seem to want to continue with agendas that YOU want.
Bishop isn’t the only one confronted by boiling anger and rising incivility. At a health care town hall event in Syracuse, N.Y., earlier this month, police were called in to restore order, and at least one heckler was taken away by local police. Close to 100 sign-carrying protesters greeted Rep. Allen Boyd (D-Fla.) at a late June community college small-business development forum in Panama City, Fla. Last week, Danville, Va., anti-tax tea party activists claimed they were “refused an opportunity” to ask Rep. Thomas Perriello (D-Va.) a question at a town hall event and instructed by a plainclothes police officer to leave the property after they attempted to hold up protest signs.
They are getting the message folks. KEEP IT UP.
The targets in most cases are House Democrats, who over the past few months have tackled controversial legislation including a $787 billion economic stimulus package, a landmark energy proposal and an overhaul of the nation’s health care system.
Socialism Policies ALL.
Democrats, acknowledging the increasing unruliness of the town-hall-style events, say the hot-button issues they are taking on have a lot to do with it.
“I think it’s just the fact that we are dealing with some of the most important public policy issues in a generation,” said Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), who was confronted by a protester angry about his position on health care reform at a town hall event several weeks ago.
“I think in general what is going on is we are tackling issues that have been ignored for a long time, and I think that is disruptive to a lot of people,” said Bishop, a four-term congressman. “We are trying, one by one, to deal with a set of issues that can’t be ignored, and I think that’s unsettling to a lot of people.”
No what is unsettling Congressman is that people are waking up. People are looking at your push for Socialism and they do not like it. What is unsettling is that YOU and others LIKE you, do not seem to understand that YOURS is the MINORITY voice. Most LOVE this country the way it was founded and YOU are attempting to destroy that and remake it in YOUR image. What is unsettling to YOU is that YOU are learning that your point of view IS the very small Minority, EVEN on the Democrat side, but your Leadership are far Left Wing Socialists that are FORCING you to go with their quest for tyranny. Sorry Congressman, YOU are on the wrong side of this.
Freshman Rep. Dan Maffei (D-N.Y.), whose event at a Syracuse middle school was disrupted, said that he still planned to hold additional town halls but that he was also thinking about other options.
“I think you’ve got to communicate through a variety of different ways. You should do the telephone town hall meetings. You should do the town hall meetings. You should do the smaller group meetings,” said Maffei. “It’s important to do things in a variety of ways, so you don’t have one mode of communication.”
“You’re going to have people of varying views, and in this case, you’ve got the two extremes who were the most vocal,” Maffei said of the flare-up at his July 12 event.
Yeah, the Insane that have the inability to think for themselves that THINK Socialism is a good thing, and the Sane that are against it.
On Tuesday, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who handles incumbent retention duties for House Democrats in addition to chairing the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, met with freshman members to discuss their plans for the monthlong August recess. While the specific issue of town hall protesters never came up, according to sources familiar with the meeting, he urged them not to back away from opponents.
“He said, ‘Go on offense. Stay on the offense. It’s really important that your constituents hear directly from you. You shouldn’t let a day go by [that] your constituents don’t hear from you,’” said one House Democratic leadership aide familiar with the meeting.
I doubt it. They are to afraid of you. As well they should be.
Some members profess to enjoy the give-and-take of the town halls, even if lately it’s become more take than give.
“Town halls are a favorite part of my job,” said Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-Mo.), a third-term congressman from St. Louis who noted that a “handful” of disruptions had taken place at his meetings. “It’s what I do. It’s what I will continue to do.”
“People have gotten fired up and all that, but I think that’s what makes town halls fun,” said Perriello, a freshman who is among the most vulnerable Democrats in 2010. “I think that most of the time when we get out there, it’s a good chance for people to vent and offer their thoughts. It’s been good.”
“I enjoy it, and people have a chance to speak their mind,” he said.
Both Carnahan and Perriello said they were plunging forward with plans to hold more town hall meetings.
Republicans, with an eye toward 2010, are keeping close track of the climate at Democratic events.
“We’ve seen Russ Carnahan, we’ve seen Tim Bishop, we’ve seen some other people face some very different crowds back home,” said National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas).
“The days of you having a town hall meeting where maybe 15 or 20 of your friends show up — they’re over. You’ve now got real people who are showing up — and that’s going to be a factor.”
Asked later how or whether the GOP would use the confrontations against Democrats, Sessions responded: “Wait till next year.”
You know folks. I really DO hope that the Republicans grow a set and actually use the TRUTH that is out there against these Loons. I really hope that someone in the Republican Party, or even the Blue Dog Democrats, will step up and say enough is enough, it's time to stop this insanity and bring TRUE Hope and Change back to Government.
The Right and well, actually, ANYONE, has an open door here. The People are waking up and they NEED a REAL Leader. I do not care if that Leader has a D, R, I, is White, Black, Male, Female, Hispanic, Native American, Catholic, Jew, Whatever. What I care about is that they are SANE. Love this country. Believe in the Constitution, and has a plan to bring us back from the Brink that Obama and the Loons are taking us to.
But Democrats are quick to point out they’re not the only ones facing hostile audiences. They single out Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.), who found himself in a confrontation earlier this month with a “birther” protester, and insist that Republicans face a backlash of their own if it appears the party is too closely aligned with tea party activists or other conservative-oriented protesters.
“It’s a risk that they align themselves with such a small minority in the party,” said Brian Smoot, who served as political director at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the past election cycle. “They risk alienating moderates.”
{Laughing} OK. So they pointed out ONE Protester, during ONE Meeting, by ONE Republican Politician. Yeah, there's a kook in all walks of life. But that hardly compares to what the Left is facing, a lot of times, from their own people. Actually I could repeat word for word what Brian Smoot just said.
“It’s a risk that they align themselves with such a small minority in the party. They risk alienating moderates.” And the Sane. Not all Liberals nor Democrats are kooks, just those in the Leadership right now. Those that are WELL FUNDED to spread the Propaganda that "Most Americans Want This." It's just simply not true.
Folks, NOW is the time to keep this up. They LIVE by Polls and they LIVE for being in power. Keep going to these meetings. As long as they are brave enough to hold them. Keep Writing, Emailing, Calling, whatever. Let them know you are NOT for this. You WILL Vote them out if they do not hear you. It really Is just that simple.
Peter
Sources:
Politico - Town halls gone wild
Hey folks,
You REALLY can't make this up. But do not be fooled. This is a trick. I love this piece in the Politico - Town halls gone wildScreaming constituents, protesters dragged out by the cops, congressmen fearful for their safety — welcome to the new town-hall-style meeting, the once-staid forum that is rapidly turning into a house of horrors for members of Congress.
On the eve of the August recess, members are reporting meetings that have gone terribly awry, marked by angry, sign-carrying mobs and disruptive behavior. In at least one case, a congressman has stopped holding town hall events because the situation has spiraled so far out of control.
“I had felt they would be pointless,” Rep. Tim Bishop (D-N.Y.) told POLITICO, referring to his recent decision to temporarily suspend the events in his Long Island district. “There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”
THAT'S NOT IT. They KNOW that they are wrong. They KNOW that they are not listening to you. Look for more of this trend. They will NOT meet with you to hear you protest against Obamacare. Why? Because they do not care what you think. All this is is an attempt to BLAME YOU for them being to much of a coward to meet with you. They know what they are doing is wrong. Even in NY. But they will blame YOU for not meeting WITH you.
In Bishop’s case, his decision came on the heels of a June 22 event he held in Setauket, N.Y., in which protesters dominated the meeting by shouting criticisms at the congressman for his positions on energy policy, health care and the bailout of the auto industry.
Within an hour of the disruption, police were called in to escort the 59-year-old Democrat — who has held more than 100 town hall meetings since he was elected in 2002 — to his car safely.
“I have no problem with someone disagreeing with positions I hold,” Bishop said, noting that, for the time being, he was using other platforms to communicate with his constituents. “But I also believe no one is served if you can’t talk through differences.”
THERE IS ONE DIFFERENCE. YOU are not listening. You and many others seem to have taken the position that WE The People, are here to serve you. WRONG. You are here to serve us, and regardless of what The People say, you and your ilk seem to want to continue with agendas that YOU want.
Bishop isn’t the only one confronted by boiling anger and rising incivility. At a health care town hall event in Syracuse, N.Y., earlier this month, police were called in to restore order, and at least one heckler was taken away by local police. Close to 100 sign-carrying protesters greeted Rep. Allen Boyd (D-Fla.) at a late June community college small-business development forum in Panama City, Fla. Last week, Danville, Va., anti-tax tea party activists claimed they were “refused an opportunity” to ask Rep. Thomas Perriello (D-Va.) a question at a town hall event and instructed by a plainclothes police officer to leave the property after they attempted to hold up protest signs.
They are getting the message folks. KEEP IT UP.
The targets in most cases are House Democrats, who over the past few months have tackled controversial legislation including a $787 billion economic stimulus package, a landmark energy proposal and an overhaul of the nation’s health care system.
Socialism Policies ALL.
Democrats, acknowledging the increasing unruliness of the town-hall-style events, say the hot-button issues they are taking on have a lot to do with it.
“I think it’s just the fact that we are dealing with some of the most important public policy issues in a generation,” said Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), who was confronted by a protester angry about his position on health care reform at a town hall event several weeks ago.
“I think in general what is going on is we are tackling issues that have been ignored for a long time, and I think that is disruptive to a lot of people,” said Bishop, a four-term congressman. “We are trying, one by one, to deal with a set of issues that can’t be ignored, and I think that’s unsettling to a lot of people.”
No what is unsettling Congressman is that people are waking up. People are looking at your push for Socialism and they do not like it. What is unsettling is that YOU and others LIKE you, do not seem to understand that YOURS is the MINORITY voice. Most LOVE this country the way it was founded and YOU are attempting to destroy that and remake it in YOUR image. What is unsettling to YOU is that YOU are learning that your point of view IS the very small Minority, EVEN on the Democrat side, but your Leadership are far Left Wing Socialists that are FORCING you to go with their quest for tyranny. Sorry Congressman, YOU are on the wrong side of this.
Freshman Rep. Dan Maffei (D-N.Y.), whose event at a Syracuse middle school was disrupted, said that he still planned to hold additional town halls but that he was also thinking about other options.
“I think you’ve got to communicate through a variety of different ways. You should do the telephone town hall meetings. You should do the town hall meetings. You should do the smaller group meetings,” said Maffei. “It’s important to do things in a variety of ways, so you don’t have one mode of communication.”
“You’re going to have people of varying views, and in this case, you’ve got the two extremes who were the most vocal,” Maffei said of the flare-up at his July 12 event.
Yeah, the Insane that have the inability to think for themselves that THINK Socialism is a good thing, and the Sane that are against it.
On Tuesday, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who handles incumbent retention duties for House Democrats in addition to chairing the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, met with freshman members to discuss their plans for the monthlong August recess. While the specific issue of town hall protesters never came up, according to sources familiar with the meeting, he urged them not to back away from opponents.
“He said, ‘Go on offense. Stay on the offense. It’s really important that your constituents hear directly from you. You shouldn’t let a day go by [that] your constituents don’t hear from you,’” said one House Democratic leadership aide familiar with the meeting.
I doubt it. They are to afraid of you. As well they should be.
Some members profess to enjoy the give-and-take of the town halls, even if lately it’s become more take than give.
“Town halls are a favorite part of my job,” said Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-Mo.), a third-term congressman from St. Louis who noted that a “handful” of disruptions had taken place at his meetings. “It’s what I do. It’s what I will continue to do.”
“People have gotten fired up and all that, but I think that’s what makes town halls fun,” said Perriello, a freshman who is among the most vulnerable Democrats in 2010. “I think that most of the time when we get out there, it’s a good chance for people to vent and offer their thoughts. It’s been good.”
“I enjoy it, and people have a chance to speak their mind,” he said.
Both Carnahan and Perriello said they were plunging forward with plans to hold more town hall meetings.
Republicans, with an eye toward 2010, are keeping close track of the climate at Democratic events.
“We’ve seen Russ Carnahan, we’ve seen Tim Bishop, we’ve seen some other people face some very different crowds back home,” said National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas).
“The days of you having a town hall meeting where maybe 15 or 20 of your friends show up — they’re over. You’ve now got real people who are showing up — and that’s going to be a factor.”
Asked later how or whether the GOP would use the confrontations against Democrats, Sessions responded: “Wait till next year.”
You know folks. I really DO hope that the Republicans grow a set and actually use the TRUTH that is out there against these Loons. I really hope that someone in the Republican Party, or even the Blue Dog Democrats, will step up and say enough is enough, it's time to stop this insanity and bring TRUE Hope and Change back to Government.
The Right and well, actually, ANYONE, has an open door here. The People are waking up and they NEED a REAL Leader. I do not care if that Leader has a D, R, I, is White, Black, Male, Female, Hispanic, Native American, Catholic, Jew, Whatever. What I care about is that they are SANE. Love this country. Believe in the Constitution, and has a plan to bring us back from the Brink that Obama and the Loons are taking us to.
But Democrats are quick to point out they’re not the only ones facing hostile audiences. They single out Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.), who found himself in a confrontation earlier this month with a “birther” protester, and insist that Republicans face a backlash of their own if it appears the party is too closely aligned with tea party activists or other conservative-oriented protesters.
“It’s a risk that they align themselves with such a small minority in the party,” said Brian Smoot, who served as political director at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the past election cycle. “They risk alienating moderates.”
{Laughing} OK. So they pointed out ONE Protester, during ONE Meeting, by ONE Republican Politician. Yeah, there's a kook in all walks of life. But that hardly compares to what the Left is facing, a lot of times, from their own people. Actually I could repeat word for word what Brian Smoot just said.
“It’s a risk that they align themselves with such a small minority in the party. They risk alienating moderates.” And the Sane. Not all Liberals nor Democrats are kooks, just those in the Leadership right now. Those that are WELL FUNDED to spread the Propaganda that "Most Americans Want This." It's just simply not true.
Folks, NOW is the time to keep this up. They LIVE by Polls and they LIVE for being in power. Keep going to these meetings. As long as they are brave enough to hold them. Keep Writing, Emailing, Calling, whatever. Let them know you are NOT for this. You WILL Vote them out if they do not hear you. It really Is just that simple.
Peter
Sources:
Politico - Town halls gone wild
4 comments:
Here's another reason for his constituents to dislike Bishop. http://shouldirun.com/recoverydotgov.html displays screenshots of "stimulus" projects in Bishop's district with the actual awards going to out of district companies. Where are the promised jobs?
Democratic Senators, Congressmen should be forced by Americans to go to Town Hall meetings and be among the citizens that are paying them to have this job. They sure are brave when they are in Congress blabbing thier mouths off on what horror's they want to do to Seniors on the Obama health reform extermination plan.
Hey Richard Blumenthal
Thank you for joining us here that the OPNTalk Blog. Welcome. Thank you also for the Information.
"Here's another reason for his constituents to dislike Bishop. http://shouldirun.com/recoverydotgov.html displays screenshots of "stimulus" projects in Bishop's district with the actual awards going to out of district companies. Where are the promised jobs?"
To answer your other question, "Should I run?" I am on the fence to tell you the truth. I've checked out your Bio. I am aware of some of the things you have accomplished. Tell you what, why not send me some information on YOU. Where do you stand, what is your vision. Why should I as a Conservative Independent thinking Voter Vote for you?
Yes I'm a Conservative. But I'm more interesting in Right and Wrong than Right and Left. I tow no Party line. Are you a believer in Obama's Socialistic Agenda? Or do you have a different vision? Let me know and I'll answer your question honestly.
Peter
Hey Anonymous
Welcome to the OPNTalk Blog.
"Democratic Senators, Congressmen should be forced by Americans to go to Town Hall meetings and be among the citizens that are paying them to have this job. They sure are brave when they are in Congress blabbing thier mouths off on what horror's they want to do to Seniors on the Obama health reform extermination plan."
I couldn't agree more. Thank you for adding.
Peter
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