Arizona Illegal Immigration Law

Misconceptions and Personal Views

Hey folks,

On Sunday April 25, 2010, I awarded the DLA to Gov Jan Brewer DLA For 042510. I said this.

Now wait a second. She did not sign a Bill making it Illegal, they ARE Illegal. She signed a Bill telling Law Enforcement to Enforce the Law. Well it's about time.

Then on Tuesday, I said this.

Monday was also the day that the Senate was suppose to come out and announce Cap and Tax. That didn't happen either. Why? Amnesty. That's right, Amnesty. They have been Governing AGAINST the Will of the People. Even some of their own are now done with them. Obamacare was Political Suicide. They know this. Cap and Tax, the "Financial Overhaul," AKA Socialising the Private Industry, are as well. The People are not happy. They need NEW People. So in the back, smoke filled rooms, while all this is going on upfront and personal, Amnesty looms.

I continued.

It's all about Votes. Forget that 70% of Arizona Voters FAVOR the new State measure cracking down On Illegal Immigration. It is PURELY Political. They do NOT care about Immigrants. They care only about their Votes. It really is just that simple. Just like they do not care about YOU.

Now the latest NATIONAL Poll shows that 70 percent of AMERICANS favor Arizona's new Law to enforce Federal Law. Which Prompted Peter, a true OPNer and who some have labeled my "Arch Nemeses" to post a comment playing the Race Card. More on that in the next Post.

On Wednesday?

So what is happening? States are getting tired of the Federal Government either FAILING to enforce the FEDERAL Law, or they are getting tire of the Federal Government coming into their States and DICTATING to them what they can and can't do. They are standing up for their RIGHTS. It is a GREAT thing to see.

So of course there is this little thing called Immigration Reform going on in Arizona right now. The Governor says that her State is being overrun and hurt by Illegal Aliens. The Federal Government is failing to enforce the LAW. So, she signs a Bill telling the Police, "Start enforcing the Law." Now we are hearing every thing from "Nazis" to things like this piece from AOL NEWS that compare it to China, fascist Europe and the United States during segregation.

{Laughing} No. Not even the Obama State Run Media can make sense reporting this. "New Arizona Law Makes It Illegal to be in Arizona Illegally." What? If you are Illegal, you are already Illegal. Incredible.

Now the MMD {Mass Media Drones}, State Run, Drive by Media, whatever you want to call them, got their Phrase of the Day. The man behind the little Black and White Curtain said "Papers." "Let me see your Papers." {In Russian accent}

Some bought this hook line and sinker. Problem is, it's purposefully incorrect. The new Arizona Law does NOT give the Police authority to stop you for "driving while Hispanic," knock down your doors, or just walk up and ask you "Let's Me See Your Papers." {In Russian Accent} It actually follows the FEDERAL LAW, of which says if, while in investigation of another Crime, Violation, Misdemeanor, Felony, ETC, the Police have the Right to find out WHO you are, and if you have the legal Right to be here.

I asked, what is the first thing the Cop asks you when you get stopped? "Let me see your Papers." I could not be here on Thursday so everyone else broke this little fact, but what is the first thing you are asked when renting a car? "Let's Me See Your Papers." Hotel? "Let's Me See Your Papers." Fly? "Let's Me See Your Papers." Buy alcohol or Cigarettes? "Let's Me See Your Papers." We, as US Citizens are asked "Let's Me See Your Papers" countless times on a daily bases. Uh, with the exception of maybe the VOTING BOOTH! Which is the point.

The Arizona Law does NOT give the Police power to hunt down and round up Illegals. It tells them they should find out who they are dealing with in the commission of a CRIME. Imagine that.

So over at Facebook, Rev. Jim posted a link for a group of people against the new Arizona Law. I thought it was Jim, but it wasn't, it was Sean Sullivan that said this.

Couple of issues here. Firstly immigration is a Federal issue and that should be so, individual States like AZ doing what they... See More’ve done here will largely push their problems into other states which s why we need COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL! (Sorry for shouting)

The problem is Sean, the Federal Government is NOT doing anything. That is why Arizona and now Texas, and others, are looking into enforcing it themselves.

Secondly, decades of piss poor immigration law combined with piss poor enforcement have left us with some 15 million people who waltzed in and stayed. This is something like SEVEN TIMES our current prison population…all of it. You are not going to solve this problem by demanding to see identification and kicking down freaking doors. We are going to have to welcome the truly desirables, the ones who built lives and families and work etc etc so that we can focus on the truly undesirables, those truly leading lives of crime. There is a distinction there, some of their lives are a crime because they came here and others came here and led lives of crime. Hell, we only kneecap ourselves chasing the good folk and it ties up our resources from chasing the bad.

Can't do either if you are hindered from asking who they are in the first place. Amnesty will legalize ALL of them. The Criminal along with the "desirables," as you put it.

COMPREHENSIVE immigration reform does include not breaking the chops of those who are good citizens in all things but their lack of citizenship. We simply don’t have the resources to do much about them and quite frankly why would we anyway?

No one is going to be knocking down doors, or approaching anyone, just because of the color of their skin. It enforces commonsense and LOGICAL Laws already in place. "WHO ARE YOU?"

Finally Pete on this “come here legally and we welcome you” thing, you need to get a little more in touch with the human element. Seriously Pete, it aint that easy and it aint that simple. You’re a husband and Dad so you know this. If you can’t provide for your family where you are and a law and a fence stands between you and a place where you could work and provide for them, what are you Pete Carlock going to do. Work and feed your family tomorrow or put the kids to bed hungry and hope you win the immigration lottery ten years from now. “Come here legally and we welcome you” are easy words to people risking life and limb to get here offered by those of us owing our own citizenship to an accident of birth. Would you feed your family?

April 25 at 11:20pm

EXCELLENT QUESTION. The short answer is YES. Of course I would. If I were living somewhere where my family was poor, starving, living in a shack, jump at the opportunity to come to the greatest country in the world? Of course I would risk my life to come here. If a Politician came along and said, I want to give you Citizenship, free money, free Healthcare, free housing, OF COURSE I would Vote for them. I understand the compassion issue here Sean. I get it and YES, I would be out there rallying for the "powerful and all knowing Man" that wants to give me everything I need. But that doesn't mean I deserve it. That doesn't mean that I have earned it. At the same time, if someone came up to me and asked me "Let me see your papers." I would understand THAT also. I'm NOT here legally. I KNEW this was a possibility when I came here. I TOOK THAT CHANCE to come here.

True story Sean. Back in the day, I spent three and a half years working with Chief Rowley in NY, in Cooperate Investigations. One of the properties that we were in charge of was Thruway Markets in Walden NY. Thruway, is like Super Wal-Mart before there was a Super Wal-Mart. When we were not locking up Employees, we were helping to stop Shoplifters. I can not tell you how many times I or one of the others, stopped someone from stealing FOOD. Some were homeless. Some where unemployed. One was working two jobs, yet couldn't afford to buy Food.

In that case, I took money out of my own pocket to pay for the Food that this young lady took to feed her family. Chief Rowley did the same thing on a number of occasions. We PAID for them to eat that night. Yet, they still were guilty of Petty Theft, and we BARRED them from ever returning to the Store. We had compassion on them, yet, we enforced the LAW as well.

Should we change the Federal Laws to say it's OK to steal, if you can not afford food? It's OK to rob a bank if you are unemployed? It's OK to steal from others to meet your needs because you are less fortunate then someone else? No. Of course not. We ARE compassionate in this country. We are the most compassionate ant country in the world. but that does not mean that we do not enforce our LAWS to keep OUR Citizens safe. How many stories do you hear about someone killed in Drunk Driving Accidents by someone who should have never been here to begin with. Most likely been arrested before. Home invasions? Look at Arizona's crime rate. Who is committing most of these crimes? I understand that most are here to make a better way for themselves. I get that. I have no problem with that. I also agree with you that those that are here, for those reasons, should be given a helping hand in the PROCESS and become Legal. But those that are committing crimes should be thrown out. Problem is though Sean, some do not want to know who is who. They just want the Votes.

Be right back.
Peter