Hey folks,
As you know I have been watching the Bird Flu very closely and warning you folks about it for years. I want you to pay VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to the FACTS of this new Swine Outbreak, and tell me if you think that this is just a natural occurrence.According to Reuters - Deadly new flu breaks out in Mexico, U.S. By Alistair Bell and Noel Randewich
* New mixture of viruses in flu never seen before
* Eight cases found in California and Texas
* WHO says Mexico, U.S. well-equipped to handle outbreak
* No need to change travel plans, say WHO and CDC (Adds eighth case in United States)
MEXICO CITY, April 24 (Reuters) - A strain of flu never seen before has killed as many as 61 people in Mexico and has spread into the United States, where eight people have been infected but recovered, health officials said on friday.
Now the way this starts off, sounds like no big deal. The CDC has even said, do not worry about traveling to Mexico. No reason to worry. However, what about these facts?
Mexico's government said at least 16 people have died of the disease in central Mexico and that it may also have been responsible for 45 other deaths.
The World Health Organization said tests showed the virus in 12 of the Mexican patients had the same genetic structure as a new strain of swine flu, designated H1N1, seen in eight people in California and Texas.
Because there is clearly human-to-human spread of the new virus, raising fears of a major outbreak, Mexico's government canceled classes for millions of children in its sprawling capital city and surrounding areas.
So Mexico, which suspect not 61 cases, but over a THOUSAND, are closing schools and starting to get a handle on people's travels and what their people are doing. CDC?
"Our concern has grown as of yesterday," U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention acting director Dr. Richard Besser told reporters in a telephone briefing.
Well, that's good. But it really does not seem likely that this is a natural occurrence.
It first looked mostly like a swine virus but closer analysis showed it is a never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses, according to the CDC.
OK. So we have the DNA of this Virus. It contains what causes some variation of Human Flu, along with that which causes Bird Flu, and that which causes Pigs to get the Flu. Is it even Scientifically possible that all these elements could come together and form this new Flu? Sorry, but as much as I have analysed this, NO.Swine Flu can normally be transmitted from Pigs to Humans. Bird Flu, Birds to Humans. Human Flu, from Human to Human. So if you combine the Human to Human ability of transmission to Bird or Swine, then it becomes possible that once a Human contracts the Bird Flu, or in this case, Swine Flu, it becomes then possible to pass it along person to person.
Mexico's government cautioned people not to shake hands or kiss when greeting or to share food, glasses or cutlery for fear of infection.
The virus is an influenza A virus, carrying the designation H1N1. It contains DNA from avian, swine and human viruses, including elements from European and Asian swine viruses, the CDC has said.
Hello? CDC? Are you paying attention? CNN has an interesting story about this. According to CNN- Texas family quarantined after son contracts swine flu
(CNN) -- As Hayden Henshaw was being rushed to the doctor's office after becoming ill, his father heard that his son's classmates had been struck with the deadly swine flu virus like the one sweeping through Mexico.
Patrick Henshaw called his wife immediately to have Hayden checked for it. Later, they received the bad news.
Hayden had become the third confirmed case of swine flu at his Texas high school. It is a virus that has killed 68 people in Mexico and infected at least eight people in the United States.
Health officials arrived at the Henshaws' house Friday and drew blood from the whole family, then told them to stay inside and away from the public, Henshaw told CNN.
The whole family is quarantined indefinitely, according to CNN-affiliate KABB. Henshaw said his family was shocked when they got the news about their son.
"Stunned. My wife was having a panic attack," Henshaw told the affiliate.
U.S. health officials have expressed concern about U.S. cases of a swine flu virus that has similar characteristics to the fatal virus in Mexico.More than 1,000 people have fallen ill in Mexico City in a short period of time, U.S. health experts said.
"This situation has been developing quickly," Richard Besser, acting director of the Atlanta, Georgia-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said Friday. "This is something we are worried about."
So why is this not on EVERY news outlet, warning people about traveling to Mexico? Why has President Obama and his Crew NOT come out and made a statement about this growing danger, securing the Boarder between us and what appears to be Ground Zero, Mexico? Why are there still some in this country pushing for wide open boarders and Amnesty?
Where, other than here, is THIS in the news?
New York health officials said Friday they were testing about 75 students at a school in New York City for swine flu after the students exhibited flu-like symptoms this week.
A team of state health department doctors and staff went to the St. Francis Preparatory School in the borough of Queens on Thursday after the students reported cough, fever, sore throat, aches and pains.
Test results are expected as early as Saturday.
We're waiting. Still waiting.
Surveillance for and scrutiny of influenza has been stepped up since 2003, when H5N1 bird flu reappeared in Asia. Experts fear that or another strain could spark a pandemic that could kill millions.
In Egypt, a 33-year-old woman died of bird flu, becoming the third such victim there in a week. The H5N1 bird flu, a completely different strain from the swine flu, has infected 421 people in 15 countries and killed 257 since 2003.
An outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, killed 44 people in Canada in 2003.
CDC will be issuing daily updates.
Now we have a Flu, that is AFTER Flu Season that contains all three of these together? I'll be checking the daily updates. Perhaps you should as well.
Peter
Sources:
Reuters - Deadly new flu breaks out in Mexico, U.S.
CNN- Texas family quarantined after son contracts swine flu
The CDC- Website
22 comments:
wow, how did this spread all the way to NYC so fast? That reminds me, I think now would be a good time to increase my daily dosage of Vitamin C and any other kind of immune system booster I can find
My suspicion is that we have a man-made virus here. Some group is trying to duplicate the deadly 1918 virus. IF that is true, then next question: Who. Three categories: Zealots who believe only they are entitled to life, and that loosing one's own life in the process is glorious! or 2)Self-hating humans who think the world would be better off without our species or with a lesser number of us, 3) a government who promised more entitlement than it can deliver........ My bet, is on No. 3. Seen news about all the ready-made graves with crypts (to contain dangerous effluents from decomposing corpses) being prepared around the country………
if this is so important, then why is our president playing golf?
How many students from all over the USA took their Spring Breaks in Mexico, which was a destination well advertised long before the fact?
This could be a serious attack using our own students as infected disseminators from everywhere in the USA.
Hey Nomad,
Welcome to the OPNTalk Blog. Glad to have you.
Before I respond to your comment, I have to say this. I LOVE YOUR BLOG!!! I am also a Coffee uh, Connoisseur. {Smile} I nearly NEVER have a moment in the day when Coffee is far from me. About three pots a day. Keep up the good work on your blog.
OK. Having said all that, the CDC and Obama and Crew REALLY do need to make some sort of announcement. I just posted an Update on this, the cases in NY have been confirmed and as I was typing the update, another 4 cases have been confirmed. This really should be an alarming rate of cases.
The Administration needs to answer a few questions.
1- Is it Man-made. I'm big on Science and have a little more than a basic knowledge of it. The three components that make this new Virus up do not seem likely to have form naturally. Bird Flew, SARS, and Swine Flu? It seems to me to be man-made.
2- IF and IS Mexico Ground Zero? If so, how DID it travel all the way to NYC so fast.
3- What is the incubation times? How do we get it. How long until we see the signs. Why are WE not dieing at the same rate as those in Mexico? What is it that we have that they do not which may help find a vaccine against it?
4- What are they planning on doing to stop it?
I have been watching Bird Flu for years. There HAVE been confirmed cases of person to person, not many, but some. SARS is person to person, and Swine was never heard of being person to person. Now we have a new virus with the DNA components of all three?
Yeah, we need to watch this closely and we need to get ready for worst case scenario. Extra Vitamin C might not be all that bad of an idea. Getting out of line if someone is coughing in front of or behind you may be a precaution as well. Yes washing hands will help, but we need more answers than that.
Again, welcome and visit often, you never know what you might see here. You will DEFINITLY see update on this, as I will be following this closely.
Peter
Hey Anonymous 1
Welcome to the OPNTalk Blog.
"My suspicion is that we have a man-made virus here. Some group is trying to duplicate the deadly 1918 virus. IF that is true, then next question: Who.
Three categories: Zealots who believe only they are entitled to life, and that loosing one's own life in the process is glorious! or
2)Self-hating humans who think the world would be better off without our species or with a lesser number of us,
3) a government who promised more entitlement than it can deliver........
My bet, is on No. 3. Seen news about all the ready-made graves with crypts (to contain dangerous effluents from decomposing corpses) being prepared around the country………"
Excellent questions A 1. Questions that need to be answered by the powers to be in this country.
No I did not see the Mass grave thing. I would be interesting in see it though. Do you have any Links? Just asking.
I would also like to know why Mexico seems to be ground Zero. Perhaps because of the Illegal Aliens that come into this country daily? Of those that have this, what is their nationalities? That might be an interesting and important little tidbit.
Peter
Hey Anonymous 2
Welcome to the OPNTalk Blog.
"If this is so important, then why is our president playing golf?"
A couple of possible answers.
1-He is to ignorant to see this as what it could be.
2- He doesn't even know this is going on.
3- He doesn't care. He is to busy taken over the country to worry about it. Less people means less cost to the Government. Just ask Pelosi. She loves China's one Child policy. She said she thinks Condemns and Abortions are good and saves the Government from having to pay welfare on these little people.
4- {What I believe} It's all about OBAMA. Obama is playing golf, because Obama WANTS to. It is all about him. Since this is not all about him, he will get around to it when he sees a way to be the "Saviour" in this situation.
Just a couple of possibilities. A 1 brought up the possibility that perhaps the Government did it themselves. Perhaps a test of some sort. That would not be the first time in history. But we do need answers.
Peter
Hey A 3
Welcome, if you are the same person then Welcome back.
"How many students from all over the USA took their Spring Breaks in Mexico, which was a destination well advertised long before the fact?" That is why I'm starting to think it may indeed be not only interesting to find out, but perhaps even a necessity to find out, what is the nationality of these people who have caught this. Who has spread it. Details. We Need Details.
"This could be a serious attack using our own students as infected disseminators from everywhere in the USA."
This is why we can not over look anything. Even the possibility, since this seems to be man-made, terrorism.
Peter
It's obviously bollocks,This is a man made virus plain and simple a overnment official even got caught on camera saying we have never seen a strain like this before which was created in the laboratory,he's on youtube saying it for christ sake
Thank you Anonymous
I found the Video I think you were talking about and posted it on today's update. 42709
Peter
Why playing golf? Same reason why Bush kept reading a story to children during 9/11: he knew it was going to happen, knows how it will play out, knows the people who are already in charge of it. His role comes later.
This is just 9/11 part 2.
I agree there are many suspicious facts surrounding this latest epidemic.
1st: The Sudden Outbreak
2nd: The speedy news coverage
3rd: A very recent mysterious disappearance of 3 viral containing vials from a Top Security Lab
4th: The unimpeded ease in which the infection spreads almost as if it was constructed to do so
5th: The overwhelming reaction by the governments around the world to this latest outbreak. Do they know something we don't?
6th: A never before seen flu that is a hybrid mix of Bird, Human, and Pig viral strains
7th That not one major or minor from what I have seen has even brought up the question yet if this is possibly a result of a man made bio-weapon
8th: This epidemic is totally out of flu season. It's warm and peoples immune systems are not depleted like in winter.
9th: The readiness of certain pharmaceutical companies offering to make a vaccine and to sell us viral fighting drugs. Isn't that sweet of them that they are willing to make an absolute fortune fighting something they might have constructed in the first place. If people haven't figured it out by now know it is not in their best interests to keep people healthy but on the margins between death and vibrancy.
lets not forget the first case of swine flu was in the late 60's at FT DIX look it up.
infowars.com
I live in VT.MY 2 kids were sick for 12 days last week constant throwing up and diereia as well as others around here both were hospitalizied.
and the DR. said they have no idea what it was and 13 other were atmitted as well.so now I wonder
Hey THX 1138,
Welcome to the OPNTalk Blog.
"Why playing golf? Same reason why Bush kept reading a story to children during 9/11: he knew it was going to happen, knows how it will play out, knows the people who are already in charge of it. His role comes later.
This is just 9/11 part 2."Interesting point. So are you saying that you think this is a "Wag the Dog" type of scenario? I have heard this before. Some think that the Obama Administration either knew it was coming or that they actually had something to do with it to distract the American people form paying attention to what he is ACTUALLY doing. With the Mainstream Media in the tank for him, it would not be difficult to do. Is this your opinion?
Peter
Hey Anonymous,
"I agree there are many suspicious facts surrounding this latest epidemic."Your list is EXACTLY Why we need answers. Great observations.
Peter
Hey Dave,
Welcome.
"Lets not forget the first case of swine flu was in the late 60's at FT DIX look it up.
infowars.com
I live in VT. MY 2 kids were sick for 12 days last week constant throwing up and diereia as well as others around here both were hospitalized, and the DR. said they have no idea what it was and 13 other were admitted as well. So now I wonder."
If I were you, I would contact the Doctor, and the Hospital and ask if they are looking into this being a possibility. Not only for YOUR piece of mind, but for the public safety issue.
I hope they are OK. Did they get well? This is not something that needs to be dismissed. It MUST be taken seriously. If they are still ill, and I pray that is not the case, I would even contact the CDC directly and let them know.
Peter
Open to a jury verdict = man made look at Baxter Inc their stocks will rise Plus - the amount of scientific data gathering and information that occurs about the spreading of a pathogen is priceless- i think these are beta test runs for the 'big ones' to come - not to be cynical - if you do the math you may see the same outcome - How close is science to engineering a virus that can attack a specific genetic makeup?
It's totally man made. And I do think this is weird: The first case was seen in Mexico on April 13. The outbreak coincided with the President Barack Obamas trip to Mexico City on April 16. Obama was received at Mexicos anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu, Reforma newspaper reported. The newspaper didnt confirm if Solis had it or not. When you combine this and plane incident in NYC on Monday morning I think we have some sort of 9/11 going on again. What are the chances of all this in the same week. Obama in Mexico at the same time and the plane. I think the plane was some type of test to see how fast building could be evacuated. I am not saying inside job I am saying they aren't telling us something. I live in NJ and there were 5 possible case reported on Monday which was five days ago. Still no confirmation. Not on the CDC website at least but yet there are articles online from newspapers saying they have been confirmed. Misinformation and Disinformation to say the least.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20090430_Nine_cases_of_swine_flu_confirmed_in_N_J___Del_.html
I have seen news footage of Delaware with confirmed cases and the person who has it. Still not on CDC website. If they aren't even reporting these I would find it hard to believe those numbers are even accurate or true.
Also I saw the comment about Fort Dix. This is the first thing I rad on Saturday of last week. It actually happened on February 5 1976. This was the first thing I read. They mention in the media but not the whole story.They say oh a solier got this, this isn't the first time, it happened in 1976 and everything was fine. What they don't tell you is it never left the base and was contained there. 250 people got it with no contact of pigs. This was before everything started happening and when I read it I instantly thought germ warfare.
Oh my god. Look at this article.
Link is at bottom.
Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus
By Helen Branswell, THE CANADIAN PRESS
Last Updated: 27th February 2009, 3:26pm
The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses.
And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.
“At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present,” medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark.
“But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau.”
The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.
The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.
Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event.
On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected.
“It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email.
The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic.
People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.
Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences.
While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.
That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.
There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however.
“We have no evidence of any reassortment, that any reassortment may have occurred,” said Andraghetti.
“And we have no evidence of any increased transmissibility of the viruses that were involved in the experiment with the ferrets in the Czech Republic.”
Baxter hasn’t shed much light — at least not publicly — on how the accident happened. Earlier this week Bona called the mistake the result of a combination of “just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure.”
He said he couldn’t reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process.
Andraghetti said Friday the four investigating governments are co-operating closely with the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Control in Stockholm, Sweden.
“We are in very close contact with Austrian authorities to understand what the circumstances of the incident in their laboratory were,” she said.
“And the reason for us wishing to know what has happened is to prevent similar events in the future and to share lessons that can be learned from this event with others to prevent similar events. ... This is very important.”
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html
Hey nevercryshytwolf,
Welcome to the OPNTalk Blog, Glad you stopped by.
I'm out of time right now, but this Sunday, I will be posted ALL these comments and links as one of the main articles for all to contemplate. Thank you very much for adding.
Peter
OH, How our country thinks. Close the schools keep your kids at home and have no large gatherings. To keep the virus from spreading but, keep the borders to Mexico open and keep the imagration celebrations going. And Mexico has the most reported virus so, lets keep the boarder open to spread more into the united states so that we can show respect for a country that failed to report the virus two months later. Know where's the respect for our country?
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