Monday, June 25, 2007

A Sense Of Reality From Clinton, Looneys Not Happy


Hey folks,

I cannot believe what I just read. A sign? A sense of reality? Supreme Leader Wannabe Clinton? You read right.

All the serious front runners on the Democrat side are promising universal healthcare. We all know that, that means socialized medicine. We all know that would destroy the BEST healthcare in the world. Ours. It would turn healthcare in this country into that like third world countries. Lines, no quality control, few would receive it, and many will die. Why do you think many come here seeking medical help. Many from countries WITH universal healthcare.

Socialized Medicine is just another way for government to control your day to day lives. Clinton tried it once before. It FAILED miserably because people found out what it was TRULY all about. So NOW, she is singing a different tune. The looneys are not happy about that. According to the AP -Clinton cautious on health care reform By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer

When it comes to health care reform, Hillary Rodham Clinton epitomizes the old adage, "once burned, twice shy."

As first lady in the early 1990s, she tried to reshape the nation's health care system — an audacious effort that collapsed under its own complexity, Republican opposition and the Clintons' unwillingness to seek compromise with lawmakers.

"I still have the scars to show for it," she tells voters now, promising a more consensus-based approach to health care reform if she is elected president.

But that newfound caution has also come with a price. While rivals Barack Obama and John Edwards have both laid out sweeping health care reform plans with estimated costs attached, Clinton has so far proposed only modest changes to the existing system while avoiding the vexing question of how to provide coverage for all.

Because it would be called what it is, socialized medicine.

With some 47 million Americans lacking health insurance, the issue has become an urgent priority for Democratic primary voters and for organized labor, a major party constituency. Activists say the time for caution is long past and they want answers from Clinton, the Democratic front-runner.

"One of the problems with being last out of a gate is that it's hard to be seen as leader," said Robert Borosage, president of Campaign for America's Future, a liberal think tank advocating universal coverage. "She has a lot of credibility for taking scars the last time, but she's got a lot of doubters, too. She needs to step up to the bat."

The Looneys. They really want to be controlled? No. They think they will aid in the control. But they are too stupid to realize that if this country becomes a communist country, they will have NO power whatsoever. A tyranny dictates one person control.

The final plan, more than 1,300 pages long, was decried by Republicans and health care interest groups as socialized medicine and government intervention run amok. The Health Insurance Industry of America ran a devastating $30 million television ad depicting a middle class couple — "Harry and Louise" — puzzling over the plan's complexities and worrying about losing the right to choose their own doctors.

The plan was declared dead in late 1994, just weeks before midterm elections that would hand Republicans control of both the House and Senate. Democrats blamed their losses in part on the health care debacle, and Bill Clinton spent his remaining years as president battling a Republican majority on Capitol Hill.

It was and IS socialize medicine. This is why she KNOWS it will not be welcomed at this time. After she was to win and become the President, I would be willing to bet she would go right back to it. With the LWL controlling the House and Senate, there would be no stopping it. But right now, she is trying to compete with the golden boy Obama, and Robin Hood Edwards.

She began last month with a speech on reducing health care costs. Among other things, she called for enhanced computerized medical record-keeping and encouraging insurance companies and providers to emphasize prevention of illness, rather than treatment.

Her second address, on improving health care quality, will come later this summer.

Whatever she proposes will be immediately compared to the Edwards and Obama plans, both of which have been generally praised by activists. But analysts say Clinton can take advantage of her late entry in the debate by combining the best elements of her rivals' plans while avoiding the points that have drawn criticism.

"After the searing experience she's had on health care, she's intent on reassuring voters she's a moderate Democrat on the issue," Yale University political scientist Jacob Hacker said. "I just fear her campaign policy folks are trying to come up with a perfect mix, threading the needle between left and right."

Central to Edwards's plan is a so-called "individual mandate," requiring everyone to have health insurance the way most states require drivers to have auto insurance. Employers would have to insure their workers or pay into a government program that would provide coverage.

Edwards has estimated his plan could cost as much as $120 billion per year, paid for by repealing tax cuts for individuals making more than $200,000. The hefty price tag has raised eyebrows and prompted Clinton to be openly skeptical about investing even more tax money into a dysfunctional system.

Like Edwards, Obama's plan retains the employer-based insurance system and creates a public plan to expand coverage. But his plan does not include an individual mandate, leading critics to say it falls short of offering truly universal coverage.

Notice how this keeps saying praised by activists, and those critics of Obama, are the ACTIVISTS. We are talking a very small group of looneys here. Those that probably either have or do not need healthcare already. But they know what is best for YOU.

Universal healthcare is bad. Talk to those in Canada. Talk to those in Europe. Talk to those that HAVE it. They will tell you, it is BAD. If we, as a nation, adopt a universal healthcare system, we will destroy the best healthcare in the world. We all already pay for those without insurance NOW. They go into the Hospital, get treated, we foot the bill. We need reform, but reform is NOT universal healthcare.

But as always, be careful. She is also trying something from the 06 play book. Come across as a moderate. Come across as someone reasonable, able to talk with, and win. Then you can be who you are AFTER you get into power. Look at congress now, compared to when they were running. Do not be fooled again. The cost is too high.
Peter

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

if our health care system is the best in the world, why did you have such a hard time getting that helmet for Josh? Did you at the time think that should have been covered?Didn't you have to fork out a bunch of $ for that? If we have the best health care system in the world, then why do I have to pay around $5000 AFTER INSURANCE for my back surgery? Do I think socialized health care is perfect? NO but, big but here, we as a nation need to look at what others are doing and take some of the good parts and make it work in our system. If our health care system is the best in the world I ask you why I had to spend last week raising $ for the funeral of a man who had been recieving SS benefits until his death and at the time of his death his widow has to apply (apply, not get, but apply) for a mere $255 ( in reality it takes about 10-15 grand to bury someone and about 5 grand to cremate) to bury him? do you really think in these other systems we would have to go thru this bull just to let the man rest in peace? Even you must admit something must be done
Bethany

Peter said...

Hey Bethany,

Long time no see. Glad you stopped by. Sorry about what you are going through right now. I know if anyone is strong enough to do it. It is WITHOUT a doubt, you .

if our health care system is the best in the world, why did you have such a hard time getting that helmet for Josh? Did you at the time think that should have been covered? Didn't you have to fork out a bunch of $ for that?

EXCELLENT points. To answer your questions, yes. I do think it should have been, I’m trying to make sure it WILL be covered in the futures for others. This was and is not “cosmetic.” This was and is a very real and increasing medical condition. Why was it not covered? Insurance company greed. Plain and simple. They are a business that couldn’t care less about you. They just want as much money they can get.

If we have the best health care system in the world, then why do I have to pay around $5000 AFTER INSURANCE for my back surgery?

Same answer.

Do I think socialized health care is perfect? NO but, big but here, we as a nation need to look at what others are doing and take some of the good parts and make it work in our system.

GREAT. I agree with you. You may want to re-read what I wrote. I was actually kinda complimented The Supreme Leader Wannabe Hillary for this one, and pointing out how her base is mad at her.

If our health care system is the best in the world I ask you why I had to spend last week raising $ for the funeral of a man who had been recieving SS benefits until his death and at the time of his death his widow has to apply (apply, not get, but apply) for a mere $255 ( in reality it takes about 10-15 grand to bury someone and about 5 grand to cremate) to bury him?

I do not mean to sound repetitious, but same answer.

do you really think in these other systems we would have to go thru this bull just to let the man rest in peace?

It would be MUCH worse.


Even you must admit something must be done

I DO! I openly and honestly admit that. We have to find a way to get greed out of this. But Failed Universal Healthcare from around the world is NOT the answer. Compared to them, we DO have the greatest Healthcare in the world.
Peter