Could This Answer The Question?


Hey folks,

I was just getting ready to share some good news about the war that seemed to slip by the Guru, when I saw this commentary at CNN -Commentary: Border security talk a bluff for bill's critics By Ruben Navarrette Jr.

I discovered right off the bat that this guy is a Liberal. But maybe he can answer the questions that I have been, and just moments ago, asked again. Let’s see shall we?

SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- It's baaaack. Comprehensive immigration reform isn't dead after all, and thank goodness for that.

Granted, it did look a bit peaked after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid cut off debate a couple of weeks ago on a bipartisan bill in an apparent bid to please organized labor, which opposes any compromise that includes guest workers.

Now Reid plans to bring the legislation back to the floor of the Senate.

And, at least we have a clearer understanding of what's really motivating those who want to kill the proposal -- and what isn't. The critics like to say the Senate has come up with a bad bill. But actually it's the critics who have been acting in bad faith.

Really?

They've claimed that the first priority should be border enforcement and that any discussion of what to do with the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States should wait until after the borders are secured. They've called for more fencing, more Border Patrol agents and more prosecutions of those who employ illegal immigrants. Right-wing bloggers, columnists and radio talk-show hosts are stuck on the same tune: enforcement first.

ABSOLUTELY!

For the record, that approach is utter nonsense. You can't have real and honest immigration reform unless you confront the thorny question of what to do with illegal immigrants already here. You can't just ignore them and hope they "self-deport."

That is completely intellectually dis-honest, or just plain ignorant for Mr. Navarrette to say. But you know, he’s a Lib. No one is saying to ignore those criminals that are here. No one. I have given the example of the flood in your house. The water is in there, but more keeps coming in. The FIRST thing you do is deal with the leak. STOP more water from coming in. THEN, you deal with mopping up the water you have in your house. Makes no sense to mop, bail, bucket, or anything else with more and more water coming in.

We are saying SECURE the boarder FIRST. Vote for that, DO that, THEN AFTER that, we will talk about the illegals that are already here.

Besides, whenever we focus exclusively on the border, we reinforce the assumption that the illegal immigration crisis can only be solved there, when the truth is that this battle is being fought every day in every corner of the country -- from the heartland to the hinterland -- and that is where it will be won or lost.

You are really not this stupid, are you? Or maybe Mr. Navarrette is so arrogant to think that YOU are that stupid.

This is Congress we're talking about. If it does enforcement-only, it'll never get to Part II. Look at what happened in 1996, when lawmakers went for the low-hanging fruit of enforcement by passing the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. The law increased the ranks of the Border Patrol and increased penalties for violations of immigration law.

And what happened? The illegal immigrant population grew from about 8 million then to 12 million now. What a good plan. I can see why some folks want to travel that road again. In fact, the author of that failed bill -- Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, has joined with Rep. Peter King, R-New York, to propose a new enforcement-only bill in the House of the Representatives.

What about 86? What about further back than that? What about the vote and funds they ALREADY have to build the fence and secure the boarder. Still nothing. This is why NO ONE trusts them. This is why it MUST be security first. Prove that they are serious, maybe the American people will get behind them.

Swell. What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Yeah we know, Liberals are great for that. They have done NOTHING but attack the President, write, and rewrite, bills they KNOW he will veto, lie to the American people on a daily bases, and continue to treat the American people as if they are idiots. Why else do you think they have a 14 percent approval rating?

Still, the "enforcement first" message apparently got through to President Bush, who helped breathe new life into the compromise bill. Last week, in an attempt to win over the votes of Senate conservatives, Bush pledged support for an additional $4.4 billion for border security and work-site enforcement.

You'd think that would make the critics happy. Nope. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-California, told CNN's "Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer" that the new funding amounted to a "terrible trade" because border security "should be a given." And Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said he didn't think the funding is "going to satisfy the concerns about whether we are really going to build a workable system."

Wrong, senator. What the critics have really been worried about all along is giving legal status to illegal immigrants and whether it might hasten that which terrifies many Americans: the Latinization of the United States. The talk about border security was just a bluff, and the president called it.

That is completely idiotic. He is right, we do not want legal status given to felons. We do not want those coming here, not giving a damn about this country, except for what they can get from it, and turning it into a hole like the one they came from. We are not terrified of anything. It’s real simple. This is OUR country. The greatest in the world. You want to come here, GREAT. Do it legally, assimilate into our way of life. Obey the laws. Work hard and pay taxes like the rest of us, and you will be welcomed.

Come here illegally, steal SS numbers, lie, cheat, and steal, and not become a productive member of society, then your out. You are not wanted. You do not belong here. Period.

Time to put our cards on the table. Some people will never be happy. So Congress needs to stop wasting time trying to make them happy and start working toward fixing a broken system. The Senate can lead the way by passing this bill and moving the process forward. Then the House needs to do its part by rejecting the enforcement-only approach in favor of something that actually stands a chance of working -- something, uh, comprehensive.

{Laughing} Wrong. We will not accept amnesty. Sorry. Just not going to happen. Anyone that does vote this bill in, will NEVER win another election. Good luck.

Well, I guess he didn’t answer the question either. Oh well, I tried.
Peter