The Democratic Quandary
Hey folks,
The Democrats have a problem. Well, they have a lot of problems letting the LWL run the show. They continue to play politics with the troops lives. I said that long before others started. More and more people are starting to realize this. This surrender Bill, that they will be childish enough to wait until Tuesday to give the President to veto, because they are childish, was meant to send a message. Well, it did. It send a message to the enemy that if they have their way, we surrender. It send a message to the troops fighting this war, "Screw You." It also sent a message to the American people. They got it LOUD and CLEAR.
So what to do now? Now they have to attempt to backpedal. Now they have to get the funds to the troops, or they KNOW that they are doomed in 08. So how do they do this? Work together with the Republicans. You know, what they SHOULD have done in the first place. According to AP -Dems in talks with GOP on new Iraq bill, by JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS.
Democratic leaders are turning to Republicans to help them pass a new Iraq war spending bill that President Bush won't veto — unlike the one Congress will send him next week with a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops.
OH? Work together to get things done in congress. Imagine that.
Democrats were already looking for ways to draw Republican support for a new spending measure, knowing they would need GOP votes to pass any bill that Bush would sign. However, a move to water down the withdrawal language is virtually certain to cost them the votes of liberal Democrats who have been uneasy about supporting any war funding.
{Laughing} Translation time folks. If they want to pass a Bill the President will sign, they cannot have a surrender clause in it. They cannot have a timetable of withdraw. HOWEVER, if they do not have that, they may not get the LWL {Left Wing Looney} votes.
"There's been talking behind the scenes about how to do this, because they know if they make substantial changes to the bill they will lose a series of Democrats," said Rep. Michael Castle R-Del, a leading moderate. "They understand that they're going to need a solution that goes beyond their own membership and there are a number of Republicans who want to get this behind them, too."
Then you have MORE bad news for the LWL. According to Reuters -U.S. announces capture of senior al Qaeda member, by Kristin Roberts and David Morgan.
An Iraqi from al Qaeda's top leadership in South Asia has been captured trying to enter Iraq and turned over to the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo, U.S. officials said on Friday.
Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi was described by defense and intelligence officials as an al Qaeda operations chief who oversaw assassination plots against Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and commanded al Qaeda paramilitary operations against U.S. forces in Afghanistan.
He was Iraqi? Imagine that also.
"This guy was a veteran jihadist whose capture is a significant victory in the fight against terror. Getting him off the street is good news," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said.
How is this surrender Bill / Veto, playing out in Iraq? According to the AP -Sunnis, Shiites split on U.S. troop bill, by SAMEER N. YACOUB
Many Sunnis on Friday welcomed a U.S. congressional push to begin withdrawing U.S. troops by Oct. 1, but one Shiite grocery store owner expressed fear the move would "leave Iraq in the hands of al-Qaida."
It would. Along with Little Hitler and Iran invading it.
Iraqis appeared divided along sectarian lines over Thursday's Senate approval of House-passed legislation calling for U.S. troops to begin leaving Iraq by Oct. 1. President Bush pledged to veto the measure and neither body passed the measure with enough votes to override him.
Comments from the street.
"I think that yesterday's vote and the threats by Bush to use the veto are nothing but political games played in Washington and we have been paying the price for these games since 2003. In fact, I see no U.S. withdrawal on the horizon," Assad Yassin said.
Kamil Nassir, a 40-year-old Shiite who owns a grocery store in Baghdad, agreed and said he was hopeful it would be stopped.
"I do not think that the United States that has sacrificed thousands of soldiers and hundreds of billions of dollars is ready to leave Iraq," he said. "Whether Democrats or Republicans, the U.S. politicians are not ready to leave Iraq in the hands of al-Qaida. U.S. withdrawal will mean victory to al-Qaida and more problems for the Americans."
AMEN! This is a grocery store owner in Baghdad. He KNOWS the truth. To bad the Traitors in power do not.
"This is a wrong move by the Democrats," said Muhei Hadi, Shiite municipal counselor in Baghdad. "The U.S. forces must stay in Iraq until Iraqi forces are really qualified to face terrorists. I hope that Bush will use his veto."
In Basra, Shiite police Col. Karim Sadkhan said he believes a quick U.S. military withdrawal "will encourage the terrorists to wage more attacks and killings."
These are people IN the country we are fighting in. These are people on the front lines. Yes of course some want us out. Those that want the country taken over. But the majority KNOW what will happen if we surrender.
The Democrats have a Quandary. How can they continue their quest for tyranny, and yet make you think they are on our side.
Peter
Sources;
AP -Dems in talks with GOP on new Iraq bill
Reuters -U.S. announces capture of senior al Qaeda member
AP -Sunnis, Shiites split on U.S. troop bill
Hey folks,
The Democrats have a problem. Well, they have a lot of problems letting the LWL run the show. They continue to play politics with the troops lives. I said that long before others started. More and more people are starting to realize this. This surrender Bill, that they will be childish enough to wait until Tuesday to give the President to veto, because they are childish, was meant to send a message. Well, it did. It send a message to the enemy that if they have their way, we surrender. It send a message to the troops fighting this war, "Screw You." It also sent a message to the American people. They got it LOUD and CLEAR.So what to do now? Now they have to attempt to backpedal. Now they have to get the funds to the troops, or they KNOW that they are doomed in 08. So how do they do this? Work together with the Republicans. You know, what they SHOULD have done in the first place. According to AP -Dems in talks with GOP on new Iraq bill, by JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS.
Democratic leaders are turning to Republicans to help them pass a new Iraq war spending bill that President Bush won't veto — unlike the one Congress will send him next week with a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops.
OH? Work together to get things done in congress. Imagine that.
Democrats were already looking for ways to draw Republican support for a new spending measure, knowing they would need GOP votes to pass any bill that Bush would sign. However, a move to water down the withdrawal language is virtually certain to cost them the votes of liberal Democrats who have been uneasy about supporting any war funding.
{Laughing} Translation time folks. If they want to pass a Bill the President will sign, they cannot have a surrender clause in it. They cannot have a timetable of withdraw. HOWEVER, if they do not have that, they may not get the LWL {Left Wing Looney} votes.
"There's been talking behind the scenes about how to do this, because they know if they make substantial changes to the bill they will lose a series of Democrats," said Rep. Michael Castle R-Del, a leading moderate. "They understand that they're going to need a solution that goes beyond their own membership and there are a number of Republicans who want to get this behind them, too."Then you have MORE bad news for the LWL. According to Reuters -U.S. announces capture of senior al Qaeda member, by Kristin Roberts and David Morgan.
An Iraqi from al Qaeda's top leadership in South Asia has been captured trying to enter Iraq and turned over to the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo, U.S. officials said on Friday.
Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi was described by defense and intelligence officials as an al Qaeda operations chief who oversaw assassination plots against Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and commanded al Qaeda paramilitary operations against U.S. forces in Afghanistan.
He was Iraqi? Imagine that also.
"This guy was a veteran jihadist whose capture is a significant victory in the fight against terror. Getting him off the street is good news," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said.
How is this surrender Bill / Veto, playing out in Iraq? According to the AP -Sunnis, Shiites split on U.S. troop bill, by SAMEER N. YACOUB
Many Sunnis on Friday welcomed a U.S. congressional push to begin withdrawing U.S. troops by Oct. 1, but one Shiite grocery store owner expressed fear the move would "leave Iraq in the hands of al-Qaida."
It would. Along with Little Hitler and Iran invading it.
Iraqis appeared divided along sectarian lines over Thursday's Senate approval of House-passed legislation calling for U.S. troops to begin leaving Iraq by Oct. 1. President Bush pledged to veto the measure and neither body passed the measure with enough votes to override him.
Comments from the street.
"I think that yesterday's vote and the threats by Bush to use the veto are nothing but political games played in Washington and we have been paying the price for these games since 2003. In fact, I see no U.S. withdrawal on the horizon," Assad Yassin said.
Kamil Nassir, a 40-year-old Shiite who owns a grocery store in Baghdad, agreed and said he was hopeful it would be stopped.
"I do not think that the United States that has sacrificed thousands of soldiers and hundreds of billions of dollars is ready to leave Iraq," he said. "Whether Democrats or Republicans, the U.S. politicians are not ready to leave Iraq in the hands of al-Qaida. U.S. withdrawal will mean victory to al-Qaida and more problems for the Americans."
AMEN! This is a grocery store owner in Baghdad. He KNOWS the truth. To bad the Traitors in power do not.
"This is a wrong move by the Democrats," said Muhei Hadi, Shiite municipal counselor in Baghdad. "The U.S. forces must stay in Iraq until Iraqi forces are really qualified to face terrorists. I hope that Bush will use his veto."
In Basra, Shiite police Col. Karim Sadkhan said he believes a quick U.S. military withdrawal "will encourage the terrorists to wage more attacks and killings."
These are people IN the country we are fighting in. These are people on the front lines. Yes of course some want us out. Those that want the country taken over. But the majority KNOW what will happen if we surrender.
The Democrats have a Quandary. How can they continue their quest for tyranny, and yet make you think they are on our side.
Peter
Sources;
AP -Dems in talks with GOP on new Iraq bill
Reuters -U.S. announces capture of senior al Qaeda member
AP -Sunnis, Shiites split on U.S. troop bill
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