Completely ignorant and dangerous
Hey folks,
"From the Energy Front" tomorrow. I HAVE to talk about this new Obama Policy. If it does not come from Obama, then Obama needs to stand up TODAY, and SAY SO. This new policy is completely asinine. It could even be seen as HELPING our enemy during a time of War. It is reckless and completely ignorant if no malice towards our Troops is intended.
I had little words when I first read this. AP - Analysis: Bombing rule may help protect civilians By PAULINE JELINEK, Associated Press Writer Pauline Jelinek, Associated Press Writer – Mon Jun 22, 6:13 pm ET
The more I think about it. This even flirts with our right TREASON. Intended or not. Get this.
WASHINGTON – Stricter new rules for combat and bombing raids in Afghanistan may well complicate the battlefield for American forces, but officials say the changes are crucial to reducing civilian deaths that have been undermining the war effort.
Analysts say they don't expect the new guidelines to immediately translate to more peril for ground troops that depend on air support in battle, but if some combat encounters under the new rules lead to more dangers, the risk is worth the effort if it builds more Afghan support for the war.
Says WHO? This writer, Pauline Jelinek, or the "Officials" she refers to? Either one is completely ignorant. It WILL very much put our brave Men and Women, on the front-line, in DANGER!
Listen to this Moron.
"We are not in Afghanistan to make sure that fewer Americans die," said Andrew Exum of the Washington think tank Center for a New American Security. "We are in Afghanistan to make sure fewer Afghan civilians die."
No Jackass. We are in Afghanistan to make sure we confront an Enemy that killed 3000 Americans in one attack, and more counting US Troops. We are in Afghanistan fighting a WAR with those that want us ALL dead. Including YOU Moron.
Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who took command of the 8-year-old war in Afghanistan last week, is expected soon to give U.S. and NATO forces new guidelines on airstrikes, telling them to break away from fights with militants hiding in Afghan houses when they can.
This is brilliant. Listen to this.
McChrystal will issue orders within days saying troops may attack insurgents hiding in Afghan houses if the U.S. or NATO forces are in imminent danger and must return fire, U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Greg Smith said Monday.
"But if there is a compound they're taking fire from, and they can remove themselves from the area safely, without any undue danger to the forces, then that's the option they should take," Smith said. "Because in these compounds we know there are often civilians kept captive by the Taliban."
Yeah. They are called HUMAN SHIELDS. The civilians that are killed by them being used as Human Shields are killed because of the ENEMY. Not us. This new order tells our Troops to run away. Run and hide. Do not defend yourself. That is what this is saying.
Though guidelines have been tightened before, the order would be one of the strongest measures taken by a U.S. commander to protect the Afghan population.
Who appointed him to this position? Where is he taking his orders from? Obama.
Commanders and top Defense Department officials alike, say such deaths hurt their counterinsurgency mission because they turn average Afghans against the government and U.S. and NATO forces.
Complete and utter BS. The Afghans KNOW who the enemy is. It isn't us. They know WHY some of them get killed. Because the Cowards that are the Taliban use this practice. If they we not there, they would not die. The TALIBAN kidnaps them, and puts them in this position. They know who is to blame here.
The change probably will encourage Taliban and other insurgents to continue, or even increase, the practice of hiding among civilians and using them as human shields, Exum acknowledged. "But if they do that, then they're going to lose the support of the population," he said.
This guy is a COMPLETE IDIOT. OF course they will use this. Not only because we stop attacking them, and defending our ground troops. But because YOU are TELLING THEM that it will now WORK! Folks, this is so far off the chart of logic and commonsense it is TREASONOUS!We are actually telling our enemy how to BEAT our Troops.
Exum said the new guidelines likely will result in fewer airstrikes.
Which is what the Enemy WANTS.
And that could limit the choices of ground troops who find themselves in a tough spot.
Yeah. You just said SCREW YOU American Troops. Their Blood will be on YOUR and OBAMA'S hands. But then again, I'm not all that sure Obama cares.
"This is going to constrain some of their options," Exum said. "But the mission ultimately comes before the men, and I don't think this is going to so (constrain them) that they are going to be subject to being overrun by the Taliban."
The MISSION IS TO WIN THE WAR. That comes before the men's safety. THAT is the whole reason we are they. TO WIN. NOT to babysit, cow-tail to the Enemy, or put our troops in unnecessary harms way for some kind of Liberal ideology.
Lawrence Korb of the Washington think tank Center for American Progress, agreed, noting that there is a huge caveat in the new guidelines that should provide protection for the ground forces.
"If you're in danger, you need to return fire, but if you can remove yourself without any due danger, that's your option," Korb said. "They will still have an out, but this amounts to telling pilots and forces to think again" about protecting civilians.
"The question is not winning the battle, it's winning the war," Korb said.
Another brilliant Idiot. You see folks, the concept of winning the War, any War, by those on the far Lib Left is to have everyone love us. Our enemies will just lay down their weapons and we will all sing Kumbaya. To Hell with our Troops. They do not matter. What matters is that the World loves us and we kill no one. Just the shear compassion and brilliance of the Lib Left will bring about change and peace in the world.
See how well that worked in Iran? What about North Korea? Yeah, Obama is so charismatic, and brilliant, that his "historic" speech brought about all these positive steps. {Sigh}
Civilian casualties are a major source of friction between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and the U.S.
More complete and utter BS.
According to the U.N., NATO, U.S. and Afghan forces killed 829 civilians in the Afghan war last year.
Where, who, how? Were they Human Shields? How many of our Troops WOULD have died if those that were killed lived by our troops NOT firing back? Oh yeah, I forgot. Our Troops are not important. How many were killed BY the Enemy themselves?
In the most recent instance, a May 4-5 battle between U.S. and Afghan forces and militants in western Farah province killed dozens of civilians. A U.S. report last week said U.S. forces killed an estimated 26 civilians. However, Karzai's government says 140 were killed, while an Afghan human rights group says the number is about 100.
Military forces had not made absolutely certain that civilians were not present, officials concluded.
SO WHAT! They are being attacked and they need to do WHAT? Well, according to this new policy, run away and NOT defend themselves.
As much as setting new guidelines, McChrystal may also be setting a new tone.
"The important thing is not necessarily the individual guideline," Exum said, but rather that McChrystal "is signaling new priorities in Afghanistan and signaling to his commanders" what those priorities should be.
"He is changing the operational culture in Afghanistan," Exum said. "If it's between killing the Taliban and saving civilians, you save the civilians."
Translation, if it's between SAVING our TROOPS, and saving civilians, or people dressed up to LOOK like Civilians, you allow our Troops to DIE.
We are in a WAR. People die in a WAR. If the enemy is attempting to kill you on a street corner, House, School, or where ever, you return fire. If the Enemy went out and kidnapped a bunch of Civilians and are hiding behind them when you fire back, and they die, the ENEMY is responsible for their deaths. NOT THE US TROOPS.
But then again, Obama is out there going around apologizing for America, bowing to Kings, saying he will work with Muslims everywhere, which, in this case, sounds like it includes our enemies, and saying he is going to give some of our tax money to Muslim Lead Countries to help "School their Females." He is also acting in ways that DO have an anti-Semitic smell to it towards Israel. Now this? Maybe we should not be surprised.
Peter
Sources:
AP - Analysis: Bombing rule may help protect civilians
Hey folks,
"From the Energy Front" tomorrow. I HAVE to talk about this new Obama Policy. If it does not come from Obama, then Obama needs to stand up TODAY, and SAY SO. This new policy is completely asinine. It could even be seen as HELPING our enemy during a time of War. It is reckless and completely ignorant if no malice towards our Troops is intended.I had little words when I first read this. AP - Analysis: Bombing rule may help protect civilians By PAULINE JELINEK, Associated Press Writer Pauline Jelinek, Associated Press Writer – Mon Jun 22, 6:13 pm ET
The more I think about it. This even flirts with our right TREASON. Intended or not. Get this.
WASHINGTON – Stricter new rules for combat and bombing raids in Afghanistan may well complicate the battlefield for American forces, but officials say the changes are crucial to reducing civilian deaths that have been undermining the war effort.
Analysts say they don't expect the new guidelines to immediately translate to more peril for ground troops that depend on air support in battle, but if some combat encounters under the new rules lead to more dangers, the risk is worth the effort if it builds more Afghan support for the war.
Says WHO? This writer, Pauline Jelinek, or the "Officials" she refers to? Either one is completely ignorant. It WILL very much put our brave Men and Women, on the front-line, in DANGER!
Listen to this Moron."We are not in Afghanistan to make sure that fewer Americans die," said Andrew Exum of the Washington think tank Center for a New American Security. "We are in Afghanistan to make sure fewer Afghan civilians die."
No Jackass. We are in Afghanistan to make sure we confront an Enemy that killed 3000 Americans in one attack, and more counting US Troops. We are in Afghanistan fighting a WAR with those that want us ALL dead. Including YOU Moron.
Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who took command of the 8-year-old war in Afghanistan last week, is expected soon to give U.S. and NATO forces new guidelines on airstrikes, telling them to break away from fights with militants hiding in Afghan houses when they can. This is brilliant. Listen to this.
McChrystal will issue orders within days saying troops may attack insurgents hiding in Afghan houses if the U.S. or NATO forces are in imminent danger and must return fire, U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Greg Smith said Monday.
"But if there is a compound they're taking fire from, and they can remove themselves from the area safely, without any undue danger to the forces, then that's the option they should take," Smith said. "Because in these compounds we know there are often civilians kept captive by the Taliban."
Yeah. They are called HUMAN SHIELDS. The civilians that are killed by them being used as Human Shields are killed because of the ENEMY. Not us. This new order tells our Troops to run away. Run and hide. Do not defend yourself. That is what this is saying.
Though guidelines have been tightened before, the order would be one of the strongest measures taken by a U.S. commander to protect the Afghan population.
Who appointed him to this position? Where is he taking his orders from? Obama.
Commanders and top Defense Department officials alike, say such deaths hurt their counterinsurgency mission because they turn average Afghans against the government and U.S. and NATO forces.
Complete and utter BS. The Afghans KNOW who the enemy is. It isn't us. They know WHY some of them get killed. Because the Cowards that are the Taliban use this practice. If they we not there, they would not die. The TALIBAN kidnaps them, and puts them in this position. They know who is to blame here.
The change probably will encourage Taliban and other insurgents to continue, or even increase, the practice of hiding among civilians and using them as human shields, Exum acknowledged. "But if they do that, then they're going to lose the support of the population," he said.
This guy is a COMPLETE IDIOT. OF course they will use this. Not only because we stop attacking them, and defending our ground troops. But because YOU are TELLING THEM that it will now WORK! Folks, this is so far off the chart of logic and commonsense it is TREASONOUS!We are actually telling our enemy how to BEAT our Troops.Exum said the new guidelines likely will result in fewer airstrikes.
Which is what the Enemy WANTS.
And that could limit the choices of ground troops who find themselves in a tough spot.
Yeah. You just said SCREW YOU American Troops. Their Blood will be on YOUR and OBAMA'S hands. But then again, I'm not all that sure Obama cares.
"This is going to constrain some of their options," Exum said. "But the mission ultimately comes before the men, and I don't think this is going to so (constrain them) that they are going to be subject to being overrun by the Taliban."
The MISSION IS TO WIN THE WAR. That comes before the men's safety. THAT is the whole reason we are they. TO WIN. NOT to babysit, cow-tail to the Enemy, or put our troops in unnecessary harms way for some kind of Liberal ideology.
Lawrence Korb of the Washington think tank Center for American Progress, agreed, noting that there is a huge caveat in the new guidelines that should provide protection for the ground forces.
"If you're in danger, you need to return fire, but if you can remove yourself without any due danger, that's your option," Korb said. "They will still have an out, but this amounts to telling pilots and forces to think again" about protecting civilians.
"The question is not winning the battle, it's winning the war," Korb said.
Another brilliant Idiot. You see folks, the concept of winning the War, any War, by those on the far Lib Left is to have everyone love us. Our enemies will just lay down their weapons and we will all sing Kumbaya. To Hell with our Troops. They do not matter. What matters is that the World loves us and we kill no one. Just the shear compassion and brilliance of the Lib Left will bring about change and peace in the world.
See how well that worked in Iran? What about North Korea? Yeah, Obama is so charismatic, and brilliant, that his "historic" speech brought about all these positive steps. {Sigh}
Civilian casualties are a major source of friction between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and the U.S.
More complete and utter BS.
According to the U.N., NATO, U.S. and Afghan forces killed 829 civilians in the Afghan war last year.
Where, who, how? Were they Human Shields? How many of our Troops WOULD have died if those that were killed lived by our troops NOT firing back? Oh yeah, I forgot. Our Troops are not important. How many were killed BY the Enemy themselves?
In the most recent instance, a May 4-5 battle between U.S. and Afghan forces and militants in western Farah province killed dozens of civilians. A U.S. report last week said U.S. forces killed an estimated 26 civilians. However, Karzai's government says 140 were killed, while an Afghan human rights group says the number is about 100.
Military forces had not made absolutely certain that civilians were not present, officials concluded.
SO WHAT! They are being attacked and they need to do WHAT? Well, according to this new policy, run away and NOT defend themselves.
As much as setting new guidelines, McChrystal may also be setting a new tone.
"The important thing is not necessarily the individual guideline," Exum said, but rather that McChrystal "is signaling new priorities in Afghanistan and signaling to his commanders" what those priorities should be.
"He is changing the operational culture in Afghanistan," Exum said. "If it's between killing the Taliban and saving civilians, you save the civilians."
Translation, if it's between SAVING our TROOPS, and saving civilians, or people dressed up to LOOK like Civilians, you allow our Troops to DIE.
We are in a WAR. People die in a WAR. If the enemy is attempting to kill you on a street corner, House, School, or where ever, you return fire. If the Enemy went out and kidnapped a bunch of Civilians and are hiding behind them when you fire back, and they die, the ENEMY is responsible for their deaths. NOT THE US TROOPS.
But then again, Obama is out there going around apologizing for America, bowing to Kings, saying he will work with Muslims everywhere, which, in this case, sounds like it includes our enemies, and saying he is going to give some of our tax money to Muslim Lead Countries to help "School their Females." He is also acting in ways that DO have an anti-Semitic smell to it towards Israel. Now this? Maybe we should not be surprised.
Peter
Sources:
AP - Analysis: Bombing rule may help protect civilians
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