From The Emails 041108

"If so urgent why wait until 2009?"

Hey folks,

I asked that same question. Sort of. Back on December 15, 2007, I told you this from the AP - UN eyes global warming pact by 2009

In a dramatic finish to a U.N. climate conference, world leaders adopted a plan Saturday for negotiating a new global warming pact by 2009, after the United States backed down in a battle over wording supported by developing nations and Europe.

The rest of it is how America is to blame for all the world problems. We are evil. We do not care. We will not sign over our sovereignty to be controlled by those that hate us. Blah Blah Blah. Same old GW Bunk. Got to love it. The solution to this “Last Chance” is to agree to talk more. Next year or later. {Laughing}

Well, I guess they have FINALLY came to an agreement, still to talk about it more, in 2009. {Laughing}

Here is the article. From MY SINCHEW.com

Thailand: UN Climate Talks Focus On Compromise For 2009 Global Warming Pact

BANGKOK, THAILAND: Climate negotiators agreed Saturday (5 Apr) on an ambitious agenda for talks they hope will lead to a global warming pact, overcoming a heated dispute between Japan and developing countries on how to cut greenhouse gas emissions.

The schedule came after five days of talks in Bangkok and requires negotiators to settle contentions issues, including how countries will cut their emissions and how rich nations will help the poor adapt to climate change.

"Not only do we have the certainty that critical issues will be addressed this year, we now have the bite-sized chunks which will allow us to negotiate in an effective manner," U.N. climate chief Yvo de Boer said.

So from way back past December 15, 2007, they have been finding it difficult to agree on what to TALK about? On a SCHEDULE? So we are to believe, that they will be able to actually DO something about the eminent treat that will destroy us all, Global Warming? Folks, they do not really believe it either. It's just about money. This is why they do not care if it takes another year or more, to talk more. {Smile}

Delegates also welcomed the agreement, but warned significant differences remain over demands from the U.S. and Japan for developing countries to accept binding targets as part of a pact to stabilize greenhouse gases in the next 10 to 15 years and cut them in half by 2050.

"We can live with the work program, but the negotiations ahead will be tough, very tough," said Prodipto Ghosh, a member of the Indian delegation. "There are wide divergences between different groups over the nature of the conclusions to be reached."

Yeah, one is the turning over Sovereignty to the UN. It is saying that we will DO whatever the UN says or face consequences. I say the UN is nothing but a joke and one of the biggest anti-American and anti-Semitic groups out there.

Talks had bogged down because of developing nations' opposition to discussion of a Japanese proposal to set industry-specific emissions reduction targets. Developing nations want rich countries to agree to set national targets first.

{Laughing} So the problem is that countries are saying, "OK, you first."

Representatives from 163 countries met in Bangkok for the first negotiations on a pact meant to take effect after 2012. Scientists say quick action is needed to prevent the worsening floods, droughts and violent storms that would affect billions of people worldwide in a warming world.

Are you really getting this folks. "Last Chance to save the planet. We are all going to die. WE only have like ten years. WE must act NOW. FAST. Before the evils of us all destroy us, and kill the Polar Bears." So let's say they all agree to this, which they have NOT done yet. It takes effect in 2012. {Smile} How many Polar Bears have to die. How many countries do we have to lose due to floods? How many civil wars have to be fought over the lack of food? Why are we waiting about YEAR to talk more? Why are we waiting another four years to act? Because it is all BUNK.

The agenda postponed in depth discussions of the Japanese proposal until August to satisfy critics in developing nations. Instead, other issues _ such as rich countries' efforts to help poor nations adapt to rising temperatures _ will be discussed first.

The temperatures are not rising anymore folks.

Delegates also deleted from an earlier draft a call for discussion of what the U.S. emissions reduction targets might be in the new agreement, delegates said, leaving talk of that for 2009 _ when a new American president will be in office. The Bush administration has been critical of deep emissions reductions.

So THAT is the reason. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE! Uh, wait, let's see who wins in America in 09. Perhaps we can convince them, especially if it's a Lib. or McCain. But then again I said, especially if it's a Lib. Maybe we can get them to fall for this.

The draft schedule also called for talks on the transfer of clean technologies from rich countries to developing ones at the June meeting in Bonn. A meeting in Ghana in August would address the Japanese proposal, as well as deforestation.

The Japanese plan triggered strident opposition from China, India and other developing countries. They argued it was an attempt to shift the burden from rich to poor nations.

Tokyo hopes for an agreement on energy efficiency targets for specific industries across national boundaries. Proponents say it would preserve competition, while rewarding countries like Japan that already have high levels of energy efficiency.

Poorer countries, however, fear it would favor nations with a technological edge by allowing them to make fewer cuts in greenhouse gas emissions. They objected to holding in-depth discussions on it in June, as called for in an earlier plan.

Ghosh dismissed the Japanese proposal as a "huge protectionist scam," while the G-77 grouping of developing countries refused to include any reference to it in the work plan.

Japan, which is struggling to meet its greenhouse gas reduction targets under the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, is campaigning to put its approach at the center of the future agreement, which is to take effect when the Kyoto pact ends in 2012.

Which has done NOTHING.

Kyoji Komachi, who headed the Japanese delegation, said Japan was not using the proposal to force developing countries into the same emissions targets as wealthy industrialized nations. But he was happy with the final document.

"I think it's positive," he said.

Of course, NOTHING was accomplished but the agreement to talk more.

The other sticking point has been the U.S. insistence that discussions over actions it will take to reduce greenhouse gases coincide with talks about what developing nations will do. Developing nations argue that U.S. and other industrialized countries should take the first steps in cutting emissions, since they are responsible for the bulk of today's emissions.

The new global warming pact is meant to succeed the first phase of the Kyoto Protocol, which requires 37 industrialized nations to reduce greenhouse gas emissions an average of 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

Or what?

The United States is the only industrialized nation not to have ratified Kyoto, but it agreed with nearly 200 other nations at a conference in Bali in December to negotiate a new agreement by the end of 2009.

So there you have it folks, they have talked and agreed to talk more. Maybe. In 09. Like I said before, this should tell you a lot about all this GW bunk. It should tell you, which should be abundantly clear to you by now, it's all about money, power, and control. There is no REAL Science in it. THEY, {the leaders of the Chicken Little Crowd} do not even really believe it. This would be like saying there is an asteroid coming. Predictions indicate that it will hit us in 5 months. So do we then argue about what to talk about? Do we agreed to talk about it in 6 months? You get the point. They do not believe the threat is real, but they want you to. They want you to pay for it.

"If so urgent why wait until 2009?"

To see who the next President is. To see if they can be scared into submitting to this garbage. They know Bush can not be, but maybe they next one can. From the looks of it, they may be right.

Have a great Weekend folks, see you Sunday.
Peter


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