Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Democrat Voters More and More Disenfranchised

Only One Option, Maybe

Hey folks,

There is a lot of talk about Screaming Dean calling for one of the two Democrats to quit the race. He has been called every name in the book. But is he wrong? More and more Democratic voters are becoming disenfranchised and more and more are saying they will vote of McCain, with the LWL Leadership does NOT want, or they will simply pull a Republican Voters maneuver. Not vote at all.

According to Reuters, to attempt to lessen the attacks against him, Howard Dean attempted to tone down what he is saying. Reuters - Obama and Clinton will know when to quit: party chief By Alister Bull Mon Apr 28, 8:57 PM ET

Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama will know when to pull out of the U.S. presidential race in order to unify the party for the general election, the chairman of the Democratic Party said on Monday.

In a round of network television appearances, Howard Dean warned that a prolonged battle between Clinton and Obama could hurt the party's chances in November's election against Republican John McCain.

"Either of these candidates, if it's time for them to go, they'll know it, and they will go," Dean said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Because they will listen to YOU? I doubt it.

"They don't need pushing from people like me or anybody else, or the newspapers or anybody else," he said. "You know when to get in, and you know when to get out. That's just part of the deal."

You are not talking about Sane rational people here. They BOTH want this more than anything else. Neither of them will quit until they lose outright. But then again, they is always the possibility of lawsuits and courts getting involved also.

But Dean is right according to the AP - Heated campaign souring Democrats on rival candidates By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer 11 minutes ago

Loyal Democrat Richard Somer says if Hillary Rodham Clinton gets his party's presidential nomination, he just may sit it out this Election Day.

A Barack Obama supporter, Somer says he has been repulsed by her use of "slimy insinuations" in the campaign. He especially disliked her attacking the Illinois senator for his relationship with William Ayers, a former Weather Underground radical with provocative views.

"She's better than that," said Somer, 72, a retired professor from Clinton, N.Y. He said he expects the Democrats to carry New York anyway, so he might not vote "as a protest to Mrs. Clinton."

Sound familiar.

Somer is not the only Democrat whose views of his party's rival candidate have soured.

Party members increasingly dislike the contender they are not supporting in the bruising nomination fight, an Associated Press-Yahoo News survey and exit polls of voters show. That is raising questions about how faithful some will be by the November general election.


They LOVE it when they do it to the Republicans. But when they do it to each other, it pulls back the veil to show who and what they really are. The Sheeple out there, that just blindly follow, believing and doing what they are told, are now confused. They have always been told that it was the Republicans that are the hateful ones. It is the Republicans that are the Racists. Now they are watching the Democrats SHOW THE WORLD that it really is, and has always been, them the whole time.

In the AP-Yahoo poll — which has tracked the same 2,000 people since November — Obama supporters with negative views of the New York senator have grown from 35 percent in November to 44 percent this month, including one-quarter with very unfavorable feelings.

Those Obama backers who don't like Clinton say they would vote for Republican candidate John McCain over her by a two-to-one margin, with many undecided.

As for Clinton supporters, those with unfavorable views of Obama have grown from 26 percent to 42 percent during this same period — including a doubling to 20 percent of those with very negative opinions.

The Clinton backers with unfavorable views of Obama say they would vote for McCain over him by nearly three-to-one, though many haven't made up their minds.

"I'd be hard pressed" to vote for Obama, said April Glenn, 66, a Clinton supporter from Philadelphia, who said his handling of the controversy over the anti-American preachings of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, made her doubt his leadership skills. "I don't think he's capable."

Clinton backers who have taken a dislike to Obama have a sharply lower regard for his honesty and ethics than they did last fall, the poll shows. Obama supporters whose view of Clinton has dimmed see her as far less compassionate and refreshing than they did then.

The feelings seem especially widespread among the candidates' strongest supporters.

_About half of Obama's white backers with college degrees have negative views of Clinton. Fewer black Obama supporters dislike Clinton but their numbers have grown faster, more than doubling during the period to 33 percent.

_Among Clinton's supporters, Obama is disliked by nearly half the whites who have not gone beyond high school, a near doubling since November. Four in 10 white women backing her have unfavorable views of Obama.

Intensified passions during contentious intraparty fights are nothing new, and voters often return to the fold by the time the general election rolls around and people focus on partisan and issue differences.

So they are hoping. They HOPE you are what they see you as. Dumb, mindless, Sheep that will do whatever they tell you. They HOPE that when this blood-fest is over, that they will be able to just come out and say, OK, that was fun, but now do the right thing and vote Democrat.

"These are snapshots of today," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., a member of his party's congressional leadership who has not committed to Clinton or Obama. By autumn, he said, "the party will come together."

I'm not so sure. Never underestimate the power of stupidity, but we are talking about Race, Religion, and what many Democrats see as personal attacks, not on the candidates, but on them, the voters. The pandering, condescending attitude, and the blatant disregard for what they hold dear may very well have long lasting effects.

Yet with the battle between the two contenders threatening to stretch into June or beyond, some Democrats are wondering whether the party will have time to regain the loyalty of those whose candidate failed to win the party's nomination.

"If we can bring this to a conclusion by mid-June or something, I think that healing can take place," Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen, who has been pressing party leaders to settle on a nominee quickly, said in an interview. "If it goes till late August, then it's a real problem."

Others express concern but argue that the divisions are not nearly as intense as when the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago was split over the Vietnam War; when Ronald Reagan unsuccessfully fought President Ford for the Republican nomination in 1976; or when Sen. Edward Kennedy lost a bitter duel with President Carter to be the 1980 Democratic nominee. In each case, those parties' nominees lost the general election.

Uh, no. There is actually a group out there waiting to "Re-Create 68" As a matter of fact, that is their name. The Democratic Party is in more trouble than they want to admit folks.

It goes on a bit about further slips and more HOPE that all will be fine in the aftermath, but many are not so sure. So what is the only solution? That one of these people quit on their own. Dean, the DNC, nor anyone else can be seen as TELLING either to quit. That would be the same as picking the nominee. No they have to make the choice themselves. Then, and only then, could the Party POSSIBILTY come back together. But the problem is, NEITHER are about to.
Peter

Sources:
Reuters - Obama and Clinton will know when to quit: party chief
AP - Heated campaign souring Democrats on rival candidates

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