What POLL?
Hey folks,
OK. Last night I posted the entire Harry Reid Press Conference of Healthcare. Dirty Harry came right out and total you what I have been telling you, the Public Option, AKA Government Run Healthcare WILL be in the Bill. However, he also completely and out rightly LIED to you.
Let's look at some of it this morning shall we?
"I feel good about the consensus that was reached within our caucus and with the White House. And we're all optimistic about reform because of the unprecedented momentum that now exists."
Outright LIE. The only momentum there is with this insanity, is that of those on the Left involved in attempting to shove this down our throats. If Snowe is true to her word, SHE is not even FOR this. Not with the Public Option.
"As we've gone through this process, I've concluded --with the support of the White House, Senators Dodd and Baucus -- that the best way to move forward is to include a public option with the opt-out provision for states.
Under this concept, states will be able to determine whether the public option works well for them and will have the ability to opt out, if they so choose."
What is the criteria? HOW can they opt out? What is the penalties for doing so. Folks, there is NO OPT OUT! This is also a lie. If it was so, then why put it in there at all? So they put this in, later it can be changed to mandatory. Trust me on this one folks. If all 50 States opt out, does it go away? Don't bet on it. This is the whole reason they are doing this. Government takeover of Healthcare, in which case, equals a Government takeover of one sixth of the entire Economy.
Let's look at some of the Q & A.
Is there a time limit for States to opt out?
REID: They'll have until 2014.
What does that even mean. Oh. That is something else I have asked. If our system is so broken, and we must do this NOW! In the next 30 days or so. WHY does it not go into effect until 2013? So the states have one year to opt out? What then? Again, HOW?
QUESTION: Two quick questions. One is, after your canvassing of senators on Friday and over the weekend in your caucus, do you feel 100 percent sure right now that you have the 60 votes (inaudible) to the bill (inaudible)?
REID: We've been working on health care as a Democratic Party, and much of that time we had Republicans helping us, since 1948. We've made significant progress these past months. As I've indicated, the American people believe there should be health care reform. I believe there should be health care reform and my caucus believes strongly there should be health care reform.
He never answered the question. I heard this live. He actually giggled when he was asked this. He is scared he really doesn't have the Vote. It was a nervous giggle. The Reporter pushed on.
QUESTION: (inaudible) trigger proposal for (inaudible) as well? And how close are you on that?
REID: No. .
QUESTION: No?
QUESTION: Senator Reid, with all due respect, is it possible to answer the question on whether or not you have the votes for this particular issue, the public option with states having the ability to opt out (inaudible)?
REID: I believe that -- I believe that we will be -- as soon as we get the bill back from CBO and people have a chance to look at it, which we'll have ample time to do that, I believe we clearly will have the support of my caucus to move to this bill and start legislating.
Again, HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!
QUESTION: Senator, can you talk about your thinking in terms of why you went with the opt-out, as opposed to the trigger option, which we know is something you considered (inaudible)?
REID: I think it's the fairest way to go. I think at this stage in the proceedings, a public option, which has received so much attention, and the public option with an opt-out, is one that's fair and gives states -- in fact, if they don't want to be part of public option, opportunity to get out.
TRANSLATION TIME: If there did not seem a way for non-participation, it will NEVER pass. So they have to throw that it in an attempt to pass it. But like I said, once they are in complete control, they can add or take away ANYTHING they want.
QUESTION: Senator (inaudible) explain how -- exactly how states will opt out (inaudible)? And what about Olympia Snowe, who says no to the opt out?
REID: I spoke to Olympia on Friday. I've talked to her on a number of occasions. And at this stage she does not like a public option of any kind.
And so we'll have to move forward on this, and there come a time, I hope, where she sees the wisdom of supporting a health care bill after having had an opportunity, her and others, to offer amendments.
Again, he doesn't answer the question. HOW can States opt out?
QUESTION: Senator, does this mean then that the co-op idea goes by the wayside or will there be a co-op in this bill along with...
REID: There will be a co-op in this bill.
QUESTION: How so?
How would it...
(CROSSTALK)
QUESTION: There will be a co-op?
REID: Um-hmm, same one from the Finance bill.
QUESTION: Senator Reid, on the tax on high-cost insurance plans, AFL-CIO (ph) (inaudible) today said it's bad policy.
I understand you're raising the threshold on families from $21,000 to $23,000.
REID: You do? How do you know that?
QUESTION: I could be totally wrong. You know better than I do.
(LAUGHTER)
But tell me -- but AFL-CIO, labor says it's still bad policy. How do you respond to that, (inaudible) putting the costs of health care reform on the backs of middle-class families. What's your response to that?
REID: This bill is for middle-class families. Barack Obama, when we were involved in this health care, in the initial stages, in a telephonic conference call we had -- one of the things that President Obama said is we have to make sure, when we've finished this legislation, it is not legislation that's only for poor people; it's for the American middle class.
And that's where I've legislated since then, and that's what this bill does.
Another complete and utter LIE. This will INCREASE Costs on the Middle Class and DECREASE Healthcare for all. It will DESTROY the greatest Healthcare system in the world. Just the SHEAR COST of the Obamacare Plan dictates ALL will have their Taxes go up to pay for it. Not to mention Cap and Tax, Tax on this. Tax on that. Everyone's Taxes HAVE to go up. Then of course he blames Republicans. Blah, blah, blah. Then this.
QUESTION: You said earlier that you had the support of the White House. Did you ask them to make the calls on this? Are you going to ask them to help you get to the 60 votes?
REID: I haven't asked them to make any calls. They haven't been -- it hasn't been necessary to this point.
Have you asked Obama to pressure for the Votes? Not yet.
QUESTION: Senator Reid, the moderates seemed more comfortable with the opt-in approach. Why did you go with the opt-out instead?
REID: We have 60 people in the caucus. It's a comfort level is kind of -- we all hug together and see where we come out.
In other words, they will not commit political Suicide. So HOPEFULLY, we will be able to convince them to vote for this if they can lie to their constituents like I am lying to you about States being able to opt-out. We'll change it later of course. But we have to get the Votes FIRST!
Which I guess DOES answer the question, he DOESN'T yet have the Votes to pass this. I think the BIGGEST LIE he told yesterday was an attempt to get YOU to believe that YOU want this.
REID: It's something I believe in the state of Nevada. All the national polls show a wide majority of Americans support the public option. I think it's important that the matter that we work on in the Senate have a public option in it.
WHAT POLLS? What National Polls is HE looking at. Even the most Liberal of Polls out there are showing the MAJORITY of Americans, regardless of party affiliations, Religion, Race, or anything else, are AGAINST a public option. Seriously folks, NO ONE WANTS THIS. He just completely made that up. I guess he was thinking that you would think, "Oh, really? The majority is for this, well, then, I guess, so am I?" Can anyone show me a Poll where "a wide majority of Americans support the public option." Anyone? Truth is, opposition is GROWING AGAINST. not only the public option, but Obamacare in general. THAT is the reality of the situation. Reid KNOWS it. This is why he lied.
Keep it up folks.
Peter
Hey folks,
OK. Last night I posted the entire Harry Reid Press Conference of Healthcare. Dirty Harry came right out and total you what I have been telling you, the Public Option, AKA Government Run Healthcare WILL be in the Bill. However, he also completely and out rightly LIED to you.Let's look at some of it this morning shall we?
"I feel good about the consensus that was reached within our caucus and with the White House. And we're all optimistic about reform because of the unprecedented momentum that now exists."
Outright LIE. The only momentum there is with this insanity, is that of those on the Left involved in attempting to shove this down our throats. If Snowe is true to her word, SHE is not even FOR this. Not with the Public Option.
"As we've gone through this process, I've concluded --with the support of the White House, Senators Dodd and Baucus -- that the best way to move forward is to include a public option with the opt-out provision for states.
Under this concept, states will be able to determine whether the public option works well for them and will have the ability to opt out, if they so choose."
What is the criteria? HOW can they opt out? What is the penalties for doing so. Folks, there is NO OPT OUT! This is also a lie. If it was so, then why put it in there at all? So they put this in, later it can be changed to mandatory. Trust me on this one folks. If all 50 States opt out, does it go away? Don't bet on it. This is the whole reason they are doing this. Government takeover of Healthcare, in which case, equals a Government takeover of one sixth of the entire Economy.
Let's look at some of the Q & A.
Is there a time limit for States to opt out?
REID: They'll have until 2014.
What does that even mean. Oh. That is something else I have asked. If our system is so broken, and we must do this NOW! In the next 30 days or so. WHY does it not go into effect until 2013? So the states have one year to opt out? What then? Again, HOW?
QUESTION: Two quick questions. One is, after your canvassing of senators on Friday and over the weekend in your caucus, do you feel 100 percent sure right now that you have the 60 votes (inaudible) to the bill (inaudible)?
REID: We've been working on health care as a Democratic Party, and much of that time we had Republicans helping us, since 1948. We've made significant progress these past months. As I've indicated, the American people believe there should be health care reform. I believe there should be health care reform and my caucus believes strongly there should be health care reform.
He never answered the question. I heard this live. He actually giggled when he was asked this. He is scared he really doesn't have the Vote. It was a nervous giggle. The Reporter pushed on.
QUESTION: (inaudible) trigger proposal for (inaudible) as well? And how close are you on that?
REID: No. .
QUESTION: No?
QUESTION: Senator Reid, with all due respect, is it possible to answer the question on whether or not you have the votes for this particular issue, the public option with states having the ability to opt out (inaudible)?
REID: I believe that -- I believe that we will be -- as soon as we get the bill back from CBO and people have a chance to look at it, which we'll have ample time to do that, I believe we clearly will have the support of my caucus to move to this bill and start legislating.
Again, HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!
QUESTION: Senator, can you talk about your thinking in terms of why you went with the opt-out, as opposed to the trigger option, which we know is something you considered (inaudible)?
REID: I think it's the fairest way to go. I think at this stage in the proceedings, a public option, which has received so much attention, and the public option with an opt-out, is one that's fair and gives states -- in fact, if they don't want to be part of public option, opportunity to get out.
TRANSLATION TIME: If there did not seem a way for non-participation, it will NEVER pass. So they have to throw that it in an attempt to pass it. But like I said, once they are in complete control, they can add or take away ANYTHING they want.
QUESTION: Senator (inaudible) explain how -- exactly how states will opt out (inaudible)? And what about Olympia Snowe, who says no to the opt out?
REID: I spoke to Olympia on Friday. I've talked to her on a number of occasions. And at this stage she does not like a public option of any kind.
And so we'll have to move forward on this, and there come a time, I hope, where she sees the wisdom of supporting a health care bill after having had an opportunity, her and others, to offer amendments.
Again, he doesn't answer the question. HOW can States opt out?
QUESTION: Senator, does this mean then that the co-op idea goes by the wayside or will there be a co-op in this bill along with...
REID: There will be a co-op in this bill.
QUESTION: How so?
How would it...
(CROSSTALK)
QUESTION: There will be a co-op?
REID: Um-hmm, same one from the Finance bill.
QUESTION: Senator Reid, on the tax on high-cost insurance plans, AFL-CIO (ph) (inaudible) today said it's bad policy.
I understand you're raising the threshold on families from $21,000 to $23,000.
REID: You do? How do you know that?
QUESTION: I could be totally wrong. You know better than I do.
(LAUGHTER)
But tell me -- but AFL-CIO, labor says it's still bad policy. How do you respond to that, (inaudible) putting the costs of health care reform on the backs of middle-class families. What's your response to that?
REID: This bill is for middle-class families. Barack Obama, when we were involved in this health care, in the initial stages, in a telephonic conference call we had -- one of the things that President Obama said is we have to make sure, when we've finished this legislation, it is not legislation that's only for poor people; it's for the American middle class.
And that's where I've legislated since then, and that's what this bill does.
Another complete and utter LIE. This will INCREASE Costs on the Middle Class and DECREASE Healthcare for all. It will DESTROY the greatest Healthcare system in the world. Just the SHEAR COST of the Obamacare Plan dictates ALL will have their Taxes go up to pay for it. Not to mention Cap and Tax, Tax on this. Tax on that. Everyone's Taxes HAVE to go up. Then of course he blames Republicans. Blah, blah, blah. Then this.
QUESTION: You said earlier that you had the support of the White House. Did you ask them to make the calls on this? Are you going to ask them to help you get to the 60 votes?
REID: I haven't asked them to make any calls. They haven't been -- it hasn't been necessary to this point.
Have you asked Obama to pressure for the Votes? Not yet.
QUESTION: Senator Reid, the moderates seemed more comfortable with the opt-in approach. Why did you go with the opt-out instead?
REID: We have 60 people in the caucus. It's a comfort level is kind of -- we all hug together and see where we come out.
In other words, they will not commit political Suicide. So HOPEFULLY, we will be able to convince them to vote for this if they can lie to their constituents like I am lying to you about States being able to opt-out. We'll change it later of course. But we have to get the Votes FIRST!
Which I guess DOES answer the question, he DOESN'T yet have the Votes to pass this. I think the BIGGEST LIE he told yesterday was an attempt to get YOU to believe that YOU want this.
REID: It's something I believe in the state of Nevada. All the national polls show a wide majority of Americans support the public option. I think it's important that the matter that we work on in the Senate have a public option in it.
WHAT POLLS? What National Polls is HE looking at. Even the most Liberal of Polls out there are showing the MAJORITY of Americans, regardless of party affiliations, Religion, Race, or anything else, are AGAINST a public option. Seriously folks, NO ONE WANTS THIS. He just completely made that up. I guess he was thinking that you would think, "Oh, really? The majority is for this, well, then, I guess, so am I?" Can anyone show me a Poll where "a wide majority of Americans support the public option." Anyone? Truth is, opposition is GROWING AGAINST. not only the public option, but Obamacare in general. THAT is the reality of the situation. Reid KNOWS it. This is why he lied.
Keep it up folks.
Peter
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