Monday, July 10, 2006

What Is Going On?

Hey folks,

Happy Monday to you. I cannot help but wonder what is going on with our troops. Now, four more U.S. soldiers have been charged with rape and murder and a fifth with dereliction of duty in the alleged rape and murder of a young Iraqi woman and the murder of her relatives in Mahmoudiya.

In this case, those charged are two sergeants, two privates first-class and one specialist. The names have not been released yet due to an on going investigation. According to the report, the five soldiers still on active duty will face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law. The Article 32 proceeding will determine whether there is enough evidence to place them on trial.

I’m sorry, but if you charge someone, you better put them on trial. If you charge someone, there better be enough evidence to at least remove any possibility they can do more harm. These soldiers should NOT still be on active duty.

Now according to our reports from the FBI in the Steven Green’s case, one of the girls that was also murdered was as young as five. Iraqi authorities identified as Abeer Qassim Hamza, the girl who was raped, and the other victims were her father, Qassim Hamza; her mother, Fikhriya Taha; and her sister, Hadeel Qassim Hamza.


Now instead for turning these innocent lives into a political movement, we need to find out what is going on. Why do a VERY FEW soldiers feel they can get away with this type of behavior. I say if these soldiers are found guilty, they should pay the price.

You know this is going to be all over the LWL and MMD outlets today. It will even be said to be President Bush’s fault in some stretched, warped, spin. This will not help relations with us and the new Iraqi government. We must do all we can do to make sure that this type of abuse does not happen. But we also can not allow what happened, being less than ten soldiers out of hundreds of thousands serving, hinder all the progress we are making and over shadow the good that is being done in Iraq.

In any large group, you have a potential of a small few being bad. This is reality. Those caught, need to face major punishment. Those found innocent, need to be fully pardoned and apologized to. And those doing a good job in Iraq, need to be praised. Too many times, a situation like this will dominate the news, fill the blogs, and be turned political over shadowing everything else.

This is NOT President Bush’s fault. This is NOT the entire military. This is NOT a normal occurrence. This is bad, those that did it need to pay, and we need to move on with the big picture.
Peter
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4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Have you seen the latest the LWL are accusing President Bush of rigging the Mexican election?

http://aliberaldose.blogspot.com/2006/06/palast-gop-using-choicepoint-to-rig.html


I have to tell you it is entertaining for me to argue with the LWL on http://www.e-thepeople.org because they are so predictable and deny any and all facts that do not fit their philosophy of we hate Bush at all costs.

Sometimes I just put stuff in to get these loonies started and with some of the most offensive I do get down and dirty with. You know the kinds that claim that they purport to act with character at all times but are quick in lambasting and putting any down who they disagree with.

As for your post, I agree that if these soldiers did do what is charged they should be prosecuted if found guilty but until then they should not be held out as an example as they represent all the troops over then which seems to be what is being characterized by those like the LWL and John Murtha.

I felt the same way when John Kerry can back from Vietnam and accused the all the soldiers of all the atrocities. My brother served in that war

On another note I posted something about the terrorist plot for blowing up the tunnels that was foiled by the administration and the result was that the LWL felt either it was irrelevant or the rights of the potential terrorist might have been infringed upon.


Keep up the good work.

Sam

2:25 PM
Peter said...

Hey Sam,


I’ll check out the blog. Your right of course. It was just a matter of time. EVERYTHING is Bush’s fault. I can’t wait to check out what they have to say.


I really do have to get back to Ethepeople one day. I know that most there are LWL and it can be fun watching them post something completely looney, and when confronted they follow the LWL game plan;


1- They attempt to argue their point. That lasts about one or two replies. They quote other LWL sites saying the same thing, therefore it must be correct.


2- When this fails, and it always does, realizing they cannot win against intelligent and logical reasoning, they result to name calling and personal attacks.


3- When this fails, they just move on to even MORE looney propaganda.


They RARELY if ever stick around and actually have a debate. Hit and run. But what would you expect, the get most of their information from the Mass Media Drones, or as Rush dubbed “the drive by media.” The shout to the roof tops “their version of the truth” and when confronted or proven wrong, they simply move on.


I haven’t been there lately just for time factors. I cannot say all that I just said then go there a post something when I do not have time to respond. Then I resort to their tactics. I try to never do that.


I wonder Sam, did any of them “D” you? That is another LWL tactic. Silence ones that do not agree. Look what they are doing to Lieberman. Wait, I just, seriously, right now, saw that Rudy Giuliani is running for President. 2008 just got REALLY interesting. I will HAVE to look into this one further.


Back to the point. Look what they tried to and continue to try to do to Rush, “The Factor” Hannity, anyone, even their own, that do not agree with the FAR left Looney fringe, silence them. But it never works. They even try on www.Ethepeople.org by “D”ing the articles written against their agenda, to keep it from climbing. This usually fails also. I have gotten emails about some of the things I posted there that was not “received well” by the LWL, saying they agree but did not post there out of fear of personal attacks. Amazing isn’t it?


As for this topic. Yes, it is a shame that “Innocent until PROVEN guilty” ONLY applies to the LWL and those they like. ANYONE else seem to be guilty until the FACTS come out. It really is sad.


“Keep up the good work.”


Thank you. Will do. {Smile}
Peter

6:42 PM
Anonymous said...

Yes I get D"d by one or two regularly thus driving my posts down in relevance. I also get you are not smart enough to know what you are talking about. Along with those who deliberately do not read my posts because they have tried in the past to demean me and have failed so the ploy is to just ignore me and thus ensuring that my posts are not read andas you pointed out they fail in their attempts to debate issues or even prove their points.

Right now I have one who I have pointed out that in the past I have provided facts and links to explain my posts but these LWL's do not even bother to read them or somehow manage to distort what I said but that is a common tactic any way with these loonies they deliberately take something out of context then push it as fact so with some of them I refuse to take the time to post facts knowing that they will not read them any way.

I guess I am just ornry because I will stand up and fight with these loonies instead of moving on. These clowns have tried to discourage any and all opinions but their own and have even driven those off who may also dislike the president but are not as vement about it.

If you are a conservative or religious watch out you are the enemy. It is funny that lately the topic of conversation has been Ann Coulter and her new book in which she says liberals are godless. I can testify to that,take ETP since the two favorite topics are we hate Bush and religion is bad.

I know that your time is valuable and there is only so much time on hand and of course I am aware that you know fully that 90 % of the posters are either democrats or liberals with agendas on this site in spite of protestations by some that they are "fair and balanced".

I read your site because it is filled with actual facts and details that are true and not the baloney I see else where.

Keep it up.

5:36 PM
Peter said...

Hey Sam,


Yes time is very short most days. I try to make a conscience decision to wake, add coffee, stubble into the office and get to work on the nearly daily article. I do it because I love every second of it. As I said to someone else that asked why I do this, that is the answer. Even if noone ever read it, I would still write it. After about 7am, life starts to interrupt. Then time is hard to come by.


I will make a pledge to you though Sam. I WILL return to ETP. Hey, you should not be going it alone there. To quote one of my favorite movies, well sort of,, “the LWL is easily frightened, but they’ll be back, and in greater numbers.” I’ll try to return this weekend if not before.


Thanks for participating here. I try to never post anything that I cannot back up with the facts. I do not just create stupidity or dirt if it is not there. The LWL and Mass Media Drone do make it easy sometimes. They are turning even more nutty as days go by. You have to wonder what will happen when the elections come and go and they loose,, uh,, sorry, the election is stolen from them, can they get any more nutty?
Peter

11:01 PM

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