As if you had a doubt?
Hey folks,
There is this underlining thought that Obamacare will include the well over 12 to 20 million Illegal Aliens in this country. Some even suggest that this is, in a way, a backdoor Amnesty move. Some say, Illegals cannot be covered under this plan, and the Leaders pushing this say it's not about that. Yeah, and Christmas is not about Santa.
We all know that one of the aspect of this Obamacare IS that it will cover Illegals. So right there, there is 12 to 20 million of the number they love to throw around of 40 Million "Americans" that do not have healthcare.
Know we already know that that is a fictitious number. That includes Teens that don't want it, Part timers that don't want it. People that HAVE Healthcare in other avenues that doesn't count as "Healthcare" in the way they are defining it. The ACTUAL number of people that do not have Healthcare that actually WANT it is FAR smaller.
So what about the Illegals? BG sent this in to me. He said this.
Time for all Demo Rats to be removed from office in 2010, only in my dreams probably but it would be nice to see them go and take the RINOs with them. (Republicans In Name Only)
I could not agree more. This is from Roy Beck of Numbers USA.
WHAT'S UP WITH THE HISPANIC CAUCUS AND PELOSI?
You know we are in trouble when the supporters of a massive taxpayer health benefit giveaway to illegal aliens say the current House plan is just right. The authoritative ROLL CALL publication says Hispanic Caucus Members told it confidentially that the Caucus told Speaker Pelosi not to change a thing because as written illegal aliens will get the benefits.
CHC Presses Pelosi to Include Illegal Immigrants in Health Bill
-- Headline about CHC (Congressional Hispanic Caucus) by Jennifer Bendery in the Roll Call newspaper (July 24, 2009)
Interestingly, the article also says that CHC Chairwoman Nydia Velázquez (D-N.Y.) said that only "documented immigrants" were discussed.
But the reporter got quite a different story from other CHC Members who talked off the record.
A CHC member, who requested not to be identified, said the group is urging Pelosi to ensure that everyone — including illegal immigrants — will be able to receive services . . . 'We’re pushing to include everyone in the health care bill. Everyone,' said one CHC member.
-- Roll Call
So, what does CHC want Pelosi to add to the House Health Bill to make sure 12-20 million illegal aliens get full taxpayer-paid health coverage?
Nothing.
That is because CHC apparently feels that the House Bill as written pretty well guarantees the coverage. Look:
Asked if CHC leaders will ask Pelosi to specifically spell something out in the bill to address illegal immigrants, the Member said no. Rather, the Member said the CHC simply wants to make sure the bill — as drafted — doesn’t prohibit illegal immigrants from accessing care.
-- Roll Call
Our allies on the Hill have been making just this point. Speaker Pelosi and others have been trying to say that the House plan doesn't cover illegal aliens because it doesn't specifically say that it does. Our allies, however, point out that unless legislation specifically bars illegal aliens from anything -- and requires verification -- illegal aliens always end up getting the benefit.
The fact that the Hispanic Caucus appears to be satisfied with the language the way it is suggests that our allies are right.
Roll Call reported that the CHS emphasized to Pelosi that she must block any language that would restrict the federal health plan to illegal aliens.
Once again, it appears that the Hispanic Caucus cares more about illegal aliens than Hispanic American citizens.
We will continue to provide multiple opportunities through the week for NumbersUSA members to fight this incredible reward for immigration lawbreakers. At a time when negotiations are breaking down because of the gigantic projected costs of the House plan and as lawmakers try to find ways to cut benefits to -- and increase taxes on -- U.S. citizens, it is most telling that so many Members of Congress are insistent on protecting beneifts for illegal aliens.
Any federal health plan must include verifiable prohibitions against inclusion of foreign citizens who are illegally in this country.
THANKS FOR PAYING ATTENTION,
Singed: Roy.
I found the LINK
Folks, let's look at this logically and without emotion, and or Politics for a second. Our Healthcare is out of control, in cost right now. Doctors are stressed and over burdened now. Let's add 40 million to the mix.
1- It is IMPOSSIBLE that adding 40 million to an already over priced service will reduce costs. That is the same philosophy that says to get out of debt we must SPEND more. {Sigh} Impossible.
2- It is IMPOSSIBLE to add hundreds of patients to a Doctor who is already overwhelmed, and say this will IMPROVE care.
3- We just can not afford it. Period. There is now way that an already hurting economy can sustain such a massive increase.
Couple this with the fact that YOUR healthcare and even your Life span, will now be in the hands of Government, you start to see this for what it is. This is a monster that needs to be killed once and for all. Let them know that covering Illegals is NOT acceptable, nor is this plan in general. Let them know that you will NOT sit back and allow your Healthcare, not being perfect, but being the best in the world, {Why do you think everyone in the world comes here for healthcare needs?} to be turned into Socialized Medicine that FAILS everywhere it is tried. Oh sure, for the common everyday stuff, it may be nice. Go in, get treated, walk out billess. Yet we KNOW that for major stuff, it does not work. We can not allow this to happen folks. We just can not allow this to happen.
Peter
Hey folks,
There is this underlining thought that Obamacare will include the well over 12 to 20 million Illegal Aliens in this country. Some even suggest that this is, in a way, a backdoor Amnesty move. Some say, Illegals cannot be covered under this plan, and the Leaders pushing this say it's not about that. Yeah, and Christmas is not about Santa.We all know that one of the aspect of this Obamacare IS that it will cover Illegals. So right there, there is 12 to 20 million of the number they love to throw around of 40 Million "Americans" that do not have healthcare.
Know we already know that that is a fictitious number. That includes Teens that don't want it, Part timers that don't want it. People that HAVE Healthcare in other avenues that doesn't count as "Healthcare" in the way they are defining it. The ACTUAL number of people that do not have Healthcare that actually WANT it is FAR smaller.
So what about the Illegals? BG sent this in to me. He said this.
Time for all Demo Rats to be removed from office in 2010, only in my dreams probably but it would be nice to see them go and take the RINOs with them. (Republicans In Name Only)
I could not agree more. This is from Roy Beck of Numbers USA.WHAT'S UP WITH THE HISPANIC CAUCUS AND PELOSI?
You know we are in trouble when the supporters of a massive taxpayer health benefit giveaway to illegal aliens say the current House plan is just right. The authoritative ROLL CALL publication says Hispanic Caucus Members told it confidentially that the Caucus told Speaker Pelosi not to change a thing because as written illegal aliens will get the benefits.
CHC Presses Pelosi to Include Illegal Immigrants in Health Bill
-- Headline about CHC (Congressional Hispanic Caucus) by Jennifer Bendery in the Roll Call newspaper (July 24, 2009)
Interestingly, the article also says that CHC Chairwoman Nydia Velázquez (D-N.Y.) said that only "documented immigrants" were discussed.
But the reporter got quite a different story from other CHC Members who talked off the record.
A CHC member, who requested not to be identified, said the group is urging Pelosi to ensure that everyone — including illegal immigrants — will be able to receive services . . . 'We’re pushing to include everyone in the health care bill. Everyone,' said one CHC member.
-- Roll Call
So, what does CHC want Pelosi to add to the House Health Bill to make sure 12-20 million illegal aliens get full taxpayer-paid health coverage?
Nothing.
That is because CHC apparently feels that the House Bill as written pretty well guarantees the coverage. Look:
Asked if CHC leaders will ask Pelosi to specifically spell something out in the bill to address illegal immigrants, the Member said no. Rather, the Member said the CHC simply wants to make sure the bill — as drafted — doesn’t prohibit illegal immigrants from accessing care.
-- Roll Call
Our allies on the Hill have been making just this point. Speaker Pelosi and others have been trying to say that the House plan doesn't cover illegal aliens because it doesn't specifically say that it does. Our allies, however, point out that unless legislation specifically bars illegal aliens from anything -- and requires verification -- illegal aliens always end up getting the benefit.
The fact that the Hispanic Caucus appears to be satisfied with the language the way it is suggests that our allies are right.
Roll Call reported that the CHS emphasized to Pelosi that she must block any language that would restrict the federal health plan to illegal aliens.
Once again, it appears that the Hispanic Caucus cares more about illegal aliens than Hispanic American citizens.
We will continue to provide multiple opportunities through the week for NumbersUSA members to fight this incredible reward for immigration lawbreakers. At a time when negotiations are breaking down because of the gigantic projected costs of the House plan and as lawmakers try to find ways to cut benefits to -- and increase taxes on -- U.S. citizens, it is most telling that so many Members of Congress are insistent on protecting beneifts for illegal aliens.
Any federal health plan must include verifiable prohibitions against inclusion of foreign citizens who are illegally in this country.
THANKS FOR PAYING ATTENTION,
Singed: Roy.
I found the LINK
Folks, let's look at this logically and without emotion, and or Politics for a second. Our Healthcare is out of control, in cost right now. Doctors are stressed and over burdened now. Let's add 40 million to the mix.
1- It is IMPOSSIBLE that adding 40 million to an already over priced service will reduce costs. That is the same philosophy that says to get out of debt we must SPEND more. {Sigh} Impossible.
2- It is IMPOSSIBLE to add hundreds of patients to a Doctor who is already overwhelmed, and say this will IMPROVE care.
3- We just can not afford it. Period. There is now way that an already hurting economy can sustain such a massive increase.
Couple this with the fact that YOUR healthcare and even your Life span, will now be in the hands of Government, you start to see this for what it is. This is a monster that needs to be killed once and for all. Let them know that covering Illegals is NOT acceptable, nor is this plan in general. Let them know that you will NOT sit back and allow your Healthcare, not being perfect, but being the best in the world, {Why do you think everyone in the world comes here for healthcare needs?} to be turned into Socialized Medicine that FAILS everywhere it is tried. Oh sure, for the common everyday stuff, it may be nice. Go in, get treated, walk out billess. Yet we KNOW that for major stuff, it does not work. We can not allow this to happen folks. We just can not allow this to happen.
Peter
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