Why would this even be considered?
Hey folks,
Where is the money coming from? Why is this insanity even considered? Why the compassion? This really ticks me off a bit. According to Daily Finance - Madoff hires consultant to shop for best prison Tom Barlow Jul 6th 2009 at 12:30PM
Bernie Madoff is not going gentle into that good night of prison life. Instead, he has hired a top prison consultant to help him find the best possible joint in which to spend the rest of his life.
With want money, and why was that not seized and given to one of the families he ripped off?
Herb Hoelter, CEO of the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives (NCIA), has provided the same service to other high-profile felons, including Ivan Boesky, Michael Milken and Sotheby's Alfred Taubman.
There is an ACTUAL BUSINESS? WHY??? Why is this allowed? Talk about ignorant, asinine, and pointless.
Madoff will certainly not be eligible for one of the country-club prisons, given the despicable nature of his crimes, but his team will want to be prepared with arguments why he should not be thrown into a hellhole with the worst of violent offenders, such as the Administrative Maximum facility in Florence, Colorado. I suspect that many of his victims, on the other hand, would be delighted to see him locked up with murderers, rapists, terrorists and Jew-hating white supremacists.
I'm one of them. What is with the compassion. They guy is a thief, he stole all the money some of the people he dealt with had, and lived the high life on their future. Why is he not deserving of being thrown in the worst hole we can find?
According to the London Times, the 150-year sentence Madoff received makes him ineligible for any of the Club Fed prisons. The U.S. Bureau of Prisons uses a "Security Point Total," which represents a prisoner's risk, to determine the level of security the prisoner requires. Depending on his number, Madoff could be assigned to facilities ranging from a minimum-security prison camp (as in Martha's Stewart's stretch at Camp Cupcake) to a "Supermax" facility.
So far, Madoff has spent his time in a maximum-security environment at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York. Hoelter said, "He has been incarcerated under very difficult conditions in these past months. Anywhere he goes is likely to be better than where he is now, unless they throw him into the Supermax . . . He will be able to get exercise. He will be able to do something that makes him productive. He may be able to tutor other inmates."
{Sigh} He should stay right where he is. Maybe the inmates THERE can tutor him.
At sentencing, the judge recommended that Madoff be sent to a low- or medium-security prison in the Northeast. However, this decision is left solely up to the Bureau of Prisons. Madoff will have Hoelter's recommendations to put forth if he's given a chance to make his case.
Which he shouldn't. He has had enough special treatment.
Boesky served his time at the Lompoc Federal Prison, aka Club Fed West. Mike Milken served 22 months at a minimum-security prison in Pleasanton, California. Taubman spent his nine and a half months at the Federal Medical Center in Rochester, Minnesota, getting medical care on the government dime. Taubman's book, Threshold Resistance, contains some prison advice Madoff may find useful, such as making friends, keeping a pleasant demeanor, and bringing reading material. I'd add one; don't try to start a cigarette investment fund. Eventually, someone will invest a shiv.
Look. Real simple. He's a crook. He deserves to be in JAIL. NOT a Country Club with restrictions. I would love to see him stay right where he is. he is not doing a few months. He is GONE. Locked up for the rest of his life, and he deserves to be where he is. Are these families going to live a comfy life after having their future stolen from them by someone they trusted? No. So he should have no comfy future either.
Peter
Sources:
Daily Finance - Madoff hires consultant to shop for best prison
Hey folks,
Where is the money coming from? Why is this insanity even considered? Why the compassion? This really ticks me off a bit. According to Daily Finance - Madoff hires consultant to shop for best prison Tom Barlow Jul 6th 2009 at 12:30PMBernie Madoff is not going gentle into that good night of prison life. Instead, he has hired a top prison consultant to help him find the best possible joint in which to spend the rest of his life.
With want money, and why was that not seized and given to one of the families he ripped off?
Herb Hoelter, CEO of the National Center on Institutions and Alternatives (NCIA), has provided the same service to other high-profile felons, including Ivan Boesky, Michael Milken and Sotheby's Alfred Taubman.
There is an ACTUAL BUSINESS? WHY??? Why is this allowed? Talk about ignorant, asinine, and pointless.
Madoff will certainly not be eligible for one of the country-club prisons, given the despicable nature of his crimes, but his team will want to be prepared with arguments why he should not be thrown into a hellhole with the worst of violent offenders, such as the Administrative Maximum facility in Florence, Colorado. I suspect that many of his victims, on the other hand, would be delighted to see him locked up with murderers, rapists, terrorists and Jew-hating white supremacists.
I'm one of them. What is with the compassion. They guy is a thief, he stole all the money some of the people he dealt with had, and lived the high life on their future. Why is he not deserving of being thrown in the worst hole we can find?
According to the London Times, the 150-year sentence Madoff received makes him ineligible for any of the Club Fed prisons. The U.S. Bureau of Prisons uses a "Security Point Total," which represents a prisoner's risk, to determine the level of security the prisoner requires. Depending on his number, Madoff could be assigned to facilities ranging from a minimum-security prison camp (as in Martha's Stewart's stretch at Camp Cupcake) to a "Supermax" facility.
So far, Madoff has spent his time in a maximum-security environment at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York. Hoelter said, "He has been incarcerated under very difficult conditions in these past months. Anywhere he goes is likely to be better than where he is now, unless they throw him into the Supermax . . . He will be able to get exercise. He will be able to do something that makes him productive. He may be able to tutor other inmates."
{Sigh} He should stay right where he is. Maybe the inmates THERE can tutor him.
At sentencing, the judge recommended that Madoff be sent to a low- or medium-security prison in the Northeast. However, this decision is left solely up to the Bureau of Prisons. Madoff will have Hoelter's recommendations to put forth if he's given a chance to make his case.
Which he shouldn't. He has had enough special treatment.
Boesky served his time at the Lompoc Federal Prison, aka Club Fed West. Mike Milken served 22 months at a minimum-security prison in Pleasanton, California. Taubman spent his nine and a half months at the Federal Medical Center in Rochester, Minnesota, getting medical care on the government dime. Taubman's book, Threshold Resistance, contains some prison advice Madoff may find useful, such as making friends, keeping a pleasant demeanor, and bringing reading material. I'd add one; don't try to start a cigarette investment fund. Eventually, someone will invest a shiv.
Look. Real simple. He's a crook. He deserves to be in JAIL. NOT a Country Club with restrictions. I would love to see him stay right where he is. he is not doing a few months. He is GONE. Locked up for the rest of his life, and he deserves to be where he is. Are these families going to live a comfy life after having their future stolen from them by someone they trusted? No. So he should have no comfy future either.
Peter
Sources:
Daily Finance - Madoff hires consultant to shop for best prison
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