Prop 8 Constitutionality To Be Decided Today

Only one problem as I see it.

Hey folks,

There is SO MUCH I want to talk about. Seriously. It has been a busy News Week, and it's only Hump Day. The US Senate Shelved Cap and Tax, Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel, the Congressional Black Caucus playing the Race Card against Democrat Leaders, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli said Screw You Obama, we WILL check Legal Status, Virginia's Obamacare suit will proceed, and much more.

But today is a day, where what the PEOPLE have decided, Voted on and a State Constitution was Amended, will stand or not. This is a CLEAR example of some attempting to justify AGENDAS over the Will of the People. Of course, I'm talking about Prop 8 in California.

The People Voted. The VAST Majority Voted FOR Prop 8, which Amended to Constitution to declare that Marriage was between one Man, and one Woman. Once that passed, some activists went nuts, protesting Churches and following typical stereotypes. Problem is 70 percent of MINORITIES. Mostly in the Black Community Voted FOR Prop 8. It was not the Right. It was not Churches. It was Minorities and everyday people that Voted this into Law. I do not remember seeing them go into the Projects to act like Idiots. Did you see them Protesting in Little Havana? Did you see them go to Minority Businesses a attempt to Boycott them? Did you? {Smile}

So of course, since the Liberal Agenda failed in the arena of Ideas, they did what the always do. SUE to attempt to FORCE their point of view, agenda, and belief, on everyone.

Well, today is the day that a Federal Judge will issue his Ruling on this whole thing.

According to LA Now - Federal judge to rule on whether gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marry [Updated]

A federal judge in San Francisco will decide Wednesday whether gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marry.

U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn R. Walker, who presided over a trial earlier this year on the constitutionality of Proposition 8, will release his long-awaited ruling Wednesday on whether the 2008 ballot initiative violates the U.S. Constitution, a court spokeswoman said. [Updated, 5:50 p.m.: His ruling is expected to be released between 1 p.m. and 3 p.m.]

Walker, an appointee of President George H.W. Bush, heard myriad witnesses testify about the history of marriage, the nature of homosexuality and the degree of power gays and lesbians possess in the political system during the 2 1/2-week trial in January.

Most of the testimony favored marriage rights for homosexuals. Walker’s decision is expected to be appealed to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals and then up to the U.S. Supreme Court.

A Los Angeles-based group funding the litigation hired former Solicitor General Ted Olson, a conservative, and noted litigator David Boies, who squared off against Olson in Bush vs. Gore, to represent two couples who are challenging Proposition 8.

The California Supreme Court ruled 4 to 3 that gays and lesbians were entitled to marry under the state Constitution in an historic ruling in May 2008. Voters passed Proposition 8 six months later, amending the state Constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

Walker will decide whether California’s ban on same-sex marriage violates equal protection and due process rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

-- Maura Dolan in San Francisco

The only problem I see is this. I do not believe that there is a Constitutional Right to Marry to begin with. Marriage is not a "Right." I've said this before, I do not think that the Government should be in Marriage to begin with. Remember back when we were talking about this, Historian D. S. Harford told us that it was originally to prevent Whites and Blacks from Marrying. It was also to prevent the spread of disease.

Marriage is now, and has always been, two people committing to themselves, in a ever bidding agreement before God, to become one forever. Government has no place in that. The Constitution does not mention Marriage at all. Gay or otherwise. There is no "Right" to Marry.

But it should be interesting to see what this Judge has to say. Of course, no matter what he says, this is going all the way to the Supreme Court. The Liberals would have it no other way, and neither should those speaking for the PEOPLE.
Peter

Gays Targeting Wrong People

Now we know where Obama Stands

Hey folks,

Remember, just Thursday, I posted Not a Good Day To Be Gay I said this then.

"Here in Florida, the Florida marriage protection amendment, Voters decided to identify marriage as the union between a man and a woman, nothing else, banning gay marriage and extra benefits for domestic partnerships. Florida will now be one of approximately 30 states with a definition of marriage in its constitution.

One of the other 30? California. Yup. Home of San Fransisco. Home of Pelosi, the twit herself. They passed the Gay Marriage Ban as well. As in Florida, it was a LANDSLIDE. There is NO doubt where the voters stand in these states. NONE whatsoever.

In Florida, Whites voted 60-40, but Black voters approved a ban on gay marriage by a vote of 71 to 29. Is there any question? Now I'm pointing out Race for a reason here. Then in California, Whites may have even let this fail 51-49. It was the 70 percent support from Black voters that put the measure over the top. 70 to 30.

So in both these states, it seems one minority discriminated against the other. Blacks against Gays. It was not the White, War Mongering, Racist, Chauvinistic, Homophobes, you know, Republicans. It was the Blacks. Liberal Democratic Black people. Obama's base. "

Many Gays and Lesbians are not happy with this. Of course. They truly feel that they are being discriminated against and their "Rights" are being taken away. So they go out and attack those that they THINK are to blame. According to AP - Gay marriage supporters march in California

SAN DIEGO – As many as 10,000 people took to the streets in San Diego and similar numbers marched in Los Angeles Saturday to protest passage of an anti-gay marriage ballot initiative, authorities said.

Demonstrators began marching through central San Diego at noon, according to police Sgt. Diane Wendell. The event lasted about 90 minutes and was peaceful, with no arrests.

The march in the Silver Lake area of Los Angeles began at Saturday evening and lasted about four hours, said police Sgt. Jake Bushy. No incidents were reported as demonstrators marched down Sunset Boulevard carrying signs and waving banners.

The demonstrations were the largest of several marches that followed Tuesday's passage of Proposition 8, a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages and overturning the state Supreme Court decision that legalized such unions in May.

A candlelight vigil in Laguna Beach Saturday evening drew about 1,000 people and police reported no incidents.

On Friday, tensions flared at a vigil at Palm Springs City Hall when a supporter of the gay marriage ban carrying a plastic foam cross clashed with protesters, according to The Desert Sun. The crowd ripped the cross from her hands and stomped on it. Police made no arrests.

About 2,000 people gathered in Long Beach Friday night and there were three arrests. A thousand people also marched Friday in San Francisco.

In Salt Lake City Friday night, a crowd of about 2,000 chanted "Separate church and state" and waved rainbow flags outside the headquarters of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which encouraged its members to work to pass the amendment by volunteering their time and money for the campaign.

But the only problem is, they are targeted the WRONG people. It was NOT the Religious folks. It was not those White War Mongering, Racist, Hate Filled, Chauvinistic, Homophobes. It was 70 percent of the Blacks that voted in California and 71 percent in Florida that place this Ban in the Constitutions. They should be protesting in the those areas. Protesting the Blacks. {Smile} It's true.

So I asked, and that really WAS the point of the whole article, what is Obama's position on this. Since he promised the Gay community that he would be a friend of theirs in Washington. What does he think of this. Well, we found out.

Barack Obama participated in a question and answer segment on Saturday while campaigning in Nevada. The show, called "Ask Obama," will be aired on MTV tonight at 7 p.m. John McCain was also invited to participate, but declined.

One of the questions Sen. Obama tackled was on Proposition 8.




"What is your reaction to Proposition 8, and would you vote yes or no on it?" interviewer Sway asked.

"You know, I've stated my opposition to this. I think it's unnecessary. I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. I'm not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that that's not what America's about," Obama answered.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. He just said "when you start playing around with constitutions,,that's not what America's about," Remember he said this. We may have to remind him of this in the future.

So he is AGAINST Gay Marriage. The people Voted. He also said he was up to letting the states decide for themselves. So now 30 states have amended their Constitutions to Ban Gay Marriage. Which I feel is unnecessary to begin with since being Gay is no more a Constitutional Right than being straight is. Will he attempt to override the Will of the People, or will he be true to his word? We'll have to wait and see.
Peter

Sources:
AP - Gay marriage supporters march in California
Washington Blade Blog - Barack Obama on Proposition 8